Comments on: Used by Randy Moss…

By: JoeC

JoeC — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:01:49 +0000

Griswald (post 13) has it right. The media is, in part, OK maybe in large part, a business. In this business, the competition for “eyeballs” is increasing. Distribution channels for media are growing exponentially. More and more cable channels. Blogs popping up at a rate that is almost alarming. And a news flash to all: the growth of interesting content is NOT keeping pace with the growth of distribution. So, the quality content (let’s assume NFL is quality and I think it is) goes for more and more of a premium. That means the parties who distribute it need to garner more viewers. That means that it behooves those that don’t carry the premium content to “piggyback” it by “analyzing” it. It’s obvious where I’m going here. If I were to guess, and OK this is a wild guess, I would say Rupert Murdoch would like to see the following: in next week’s game Randy Moss actually drops his drawers, the Vikings win AND the NFL doesn’t suspend Moss. Exponentially increasing ratings! A great way for Fox to get huge ratings and for DirecTV to get more takers of the NFL Season Ticket product. Oh yeah, that’s right, Newscorp has a big stake in DirecTV also. This isn’t a conspiracy theory. It’s just business at work. And in a world of lots of distribution and maybe not enough quality content, expect this to occur with greater frequency. Mark, thanks as always for providing this great forum. And thanks to all the posters who have lots of interesting ideas.

By: ross

ross — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:01:49 +0000

Lets look at the larger facts.
Like it or not, Pro Atheletes are role models.
That’s why kids buy their jersey’s, want to be like Mike, and create demand for the games tickets, and watch on TV to create demand for TV contracts.
Let’s also get real here, parents are paying for this, $100 buck and up jerseys and the cost of going to a game, to give as you say Mark, an experience.
What does every parent want for their kids, for them to be successful. How do kids learn, by modeling. Being an entertainer athlete who makes millions, being an ass makes you a highly paid Bart Simpson whose noteriety is based on the novelty of being rude. Do you think any parent (the wallet) wants their kid to behave like Randy Moss. Mark do you want your child when they graduate from College to turn around and fake moon the audience. Would you accept your employees routinely turning around and fake mooning you going into the office? As you say, who is really pouring the water here, the parents, who want a better society for their kids. If they are not role models, stop selling their jerseys, stop going to hospitals, stop going to schools with the athetes. Either that, or maybe its time for Coach Carter, who locked his players out of practice to start running the NFL, or the NBA.
“An intelligent man, answeres even a fool intellegently” so Moss mooning fans, who mooned his bus, shows his intelligence.
When you are given my kids for an afternoon NFL, you have a responsibility to the parent, keep on being less responsible at it, and there will be a point were you will lose the customer.

By: joe

joe — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:01:49 +0000

joe buck is the same guy who tried to defend alex rodriguez slapping the ball in the world series, and didn’t say anything about yankee fans throwing balls onto the field, but this is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse apparently. please

and why was joe buck even doing a football game? fox really has no one else? are they trying to make him into a bob costas?

By: Paul Goode

Paul Goode — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:01:49 +0000

I caught that “fakie moon” celebration and really disregarded it as something stupid. Put it on my “things not to do” list… and “ways not to celebrate a victory” list. Makes me appreciate soccer teams all the more… the way they typically celebrate is something that I can connect with.

Maybe I should be more offended at how Moss mimed the action rather than dropping trow and giving them the complete moonshine.

By: Doug

Doug — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:01:49 +0000

That is funny, Paul (comment #21). Watching soccer is on most people’s “things not to do” list. It’s sandwiched in between watching paint dry and watching grass grow.

By: Steve S.

Steve S. — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:01:49 +0000

You missed the point, Mark. No one is shaking in horror that their kids should see what Randy did. The point is that Moss performed a crude, crass act that showed his typical lack of class and very poor sportsmanship. Is that the way you would want your child to behave?
Yes, the media over-reacted but please don’t condone that type of behavior. Young kids do watch and do emulate.

By: Shumpy

Shumpy — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:01:49 +0000

I am going to have to agree with you.

Did someone put the ‘fake moon’ on the list of obscene gestures while I wasn’t looking?

It’s not like giving someone the finger.

Now we need to put the mimes of the world away or talk about how they are bad people for doing the ‘trapped in a box’ routine.

/see you at the game tonight – GO MAVS!
//Mark – dare you to moon the opposing team

By: Brad

Brad — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:01:49 +0000

Just a footnote to the Randy Moonoss at Lambeau(sp) I have yet to hear from ANYONE in the media, not that I’ve been watching any because they think news they catch is a team-coverage break in to your regularly scheduled program to tell you this, but, there is a tradition in packerland that I didn’t know about until this moss incident but packer fans have mooned (actually mooned) losing teams as they leave town….How is it that an unprofane gesture like pretending to moon is a dastardly deed. I’m not into journalism and probably have no business giving MY opionion…I probably didn’t even write this very-well…so why ain’t my comments worth of the 5 o’clock news????? hehehe

By: MorrowLess

MorrowLess — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:01:49 +0000

I live near Green Bay (I’m a Vikings fan though) and saw the thing about Packer fans mooning the losing team on CNN from Tony Dungie. It was pretty funny to hear that.

Side note: my dad was at the game sitting at the 10 yard line of the end zone that Randy mooned. Dad got home from the game and told me that throughout the entire game, all of the Packer fans around him were swearing at the Vikings AND the Packers when they screwed up. Pretty nasty cursing, and there were a number of young children around hearing all of this. Seems weird to start of with a moment of silence for Reggie White and then switch to cursing your head off for the entire game…and then get mad because of Randy’s supposed unsportsmanlike like conduct while nothing gets said about the behavior of the Packer fans.

P.S. I’d love to see Randy do an almost fake moon against the Eagles…but when he bends over he should just tie his shoes and smile.

By: crowbar317

crowbar317 — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:01:49 +0000

Bah. I disagree with the majority here. There is are things called respect and teamwork andsportsmanship, and not only Moss’s celebration, but all excessive celebrations take away from those fundamentals.

I didn’t find the particular celebration offensive per se, and I’m not offended easily at all (i liked the “wardrobe malfunction), but I would much rather see a great TD, and then watch the guy hand the ball to the ref and shake hands with his teammates, who were the guys that helped make the score happen in the first place.