Comments on: Abandoned by the DVD business http://blogmaverick.com/2005/01/17/abandoned-by-the-dvd-business/ the mark cuban weblog Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:50:11 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Rich Colbert http://blogmaverick.com/2005/01/17/abandoned-by-the-dvd-business/#comment-6825 Rich Colbert Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:01:40 +0000 http://blogmaverick.wordpress.com/2005/01/17/abandoned-by-the-dvd-business/#comment-6825 My point about NetFlix and Fair Use was simply that in a debate like this when the wrong people get on the right side of an argument that it makes it more difficult to fight the uphill battle. In a similar fashion, the folks who got sued by the RIAA for distributing THOUSANDS of songs online aren't the same people you want arguing in favor of P2P networks. The issue at hand in all of these similar cases is really simple. It's the competing interests of people who want convenient use of something they own and legitimately paid for versus those who either feel entitled to obtain the same content without paying anyone, or those who would try and profit by selling content to which they have no legitimate rights. There are flaws on both sides of the arguments. First off, copyright and content ownership is a very valuable and important thing. Without those rights and protections you wouldn't have nearly as much quality content available. Can you imagine New Line putting up $300 million to film the Lord of the Rings trilogy if you could legally download it for free online the day it came out in theaters. However, the content producers alway egrigiously overestimate the total losses they incurr because they assume that every dollar worth of stolen content equates to a dollar of lost sales. The reason why people steal something in the first place is usually that they don't have the money or the inclination to pay for it. This isn't like shoplifting where if you steal $100 worth of solid goods that you have demonstrably taken $100 out of the pocket of the merchant. Selling media content is like selling software and/or prostitution. You got it. You sell it. You still got it. Defending the disingenious because they agree with your side of the argument only discredits the remaining, legitimate advocates of the position. In other words, if you steal stuff then STFU and let the honest people argue for Fair Use. My point about NetFlix and Fair Use was simply that in a debate like this when the wrong people get on the right side of an argument that it makes it more difficult to fight the uphill battle.

In a similar fashion, the folks who got sued by the RIAA for distributing THOUSANDS of songs online aren’t the same people you want arguing in favor of P2P networks.

The issue at hand in all of these similar cases is really simple. It’s the competing interests of people who want convenient use of something they own and legitimately paid for versus those who either feel entitled to obtain the same content without paying anyone, or those who would try and profit by selling content to which they have no legitimate rights.

There are flaws on both sides of the arguments. First off, copyright and content ownership is a very valuable and important thing. Without those rights and protections you wouldn’t have nearly as much quality content available. Can you imagine New Line putting up $300 million to film the Lord of the Rings trilogy if you could legally download it for free online the day it came out in theaters. However, the content producers alway egrigiously overestimate the total losses they incurr because they assume that every dollar worth of stolen content equates to a dollar of lost sales. The reason why people steal something in the first place is usually that they don’t have the money or the inclination to pay for it. This isn’t like shoplifting where if you steal $100 worth of solid goods that you have demonstrably taken $100 out of the pocket of the merchant. Selling media content is like selling software and/or prostitution. You got it. You sell it. You still got it.

Defending the disingenious because they agree with your side of the argument only discredits the remaining, legitimate advocates of the position.

In other words, if you steal stuff then STFU and let the honest people argue for Fair Use.

]]> By: Bob L http://blogmaverick.com/2005/01/17/abandoned-by-the-dvd-business/#comment-6826 Bob L Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:01:40 +0000 http://blogmaverick.wordpress.com/2005/01/17/abandoned-by-the-dvd-business/#comment-6826 The problem with this is the DVD/CCA. While fair use gives us the right to make backup copies of our media, it is illegal to break the encryption on a DVD to get to the media. It is a catch 22. There are several devices available that provide server access for DVDs. Kaleidascape is a system, that distributes DVDs across a home network. It is really expensive about 30K. This comany spent a ton of money and bought a license from the DVD/CCA. Then were sued anyway. DRM will kill the movie and music business before pirates. The problem with this is the DVD/CCA. While fair use gives us the right to make backup copies of our media, it is illegal to break the encryption on a DVD to get to the media. It is a catch 22. There are several devices available that provide server access for DVDs. Kaleidascape is a system, that distributes DVDs across a home network. It is really expensive about 30K. This comany spent a ton of money and bought a license from the DVD/CCA. Then were sued anyway. DRM will kill the movie and music business before pirates.

]]> By: DeeAnn http://blogmaverick.com/2005/01/17/abandoned-by-the-dvd-business/#comment-6827 DeeAnn Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:01:40 +0000 http://blogmaverick.wordpress.com/2005/01/17/abandoned-by-the-dvd-business/#comment-6827 Quote: "My point about NetFlix and Fair Use was simply that in a debate like this when the wrong people get on the right side of an argument that it makes it more difficult to fight the uphill battle" That makes a lot more sense (to me, anyway) than the earlier post (which (probably unintentionally) came off as a blanket statement that people who use Netflix and also don't like the DMCA have an invalid argument). Quote: "Defending the disingenious because they agree with your side of the argument only discredits the remaining, legitimate advocates of the position." Not defending anyone- just illustrating the point that yes, you can like Netflix and yes, you can also be unhappy with aspects of the DMCA. As a content provider/distributor do I want to see our stuff on the P2P networks? No. But do I still think that the DMCA is flawed? Yes. Quote: "In other words, if you steal stuff then STFU and let the honest people argue for Fair Use." I agree. Quote: “My point about NetFlix and Fair Use was simply that in a debate like this when the wrong people get on the right side of an argument that it makes it more difficult to fight the uphill battle”

That makes a lot more sense (to me, anyway) than the earlier post (which (probably unintentionally) came off as a blanket statement that people who use Netflix and also don’t like the DMCA have an invalid argument).

Quote: “Defending the disingenious because they agree with your side of the argument only discredits the remaining, legitimate advocates of the position.”

Not defending anyone- just illustrating the point that yes, you can like Netflix and yes, you can also be unhappy with aspects of the DMCA.

As a content provider/distributor do I want to see our stuff on the P2P networks? No. But do I still think that the DMCA is flawed? Yes.

Quote: “In other words, if you steal stuff then STFU and let the honest people argue for Fair Use.”

I agree.

]]> By: apples http://blogmaverick.com/2005/01/17/abandoned-by-the-dvd-business/#comment-6828 apples Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:01:40 +0000 http://blogmaverick.wordpress.com/2005/01/17/abandoned-by-the-dvd-business/#comment-6828 I tried to read the comments. All the comments. But there are just so many of them! You've got more than 50 comments on this post, over a 100 on the last one. And this post is about ripping DVDs! Don't get me wrong, it was a good post, I've had the same problem with DVDs myself, but wow... that's a lot of people! It's the first time I've stumbled across this blog, maybe I should dig deeper. You incredibly good at writing, got hundreds of very very interested friends or sumthin? I'll have to read a bit more :) I tried to read the comments. All the comments. But there are just so many of them! You’ve got more than 50 comments on this post, over a 100 on the last one. And this post is about ripping DVDs! Don’t get me wrong, it was a good post, I’ve had the same problem with DVDs myself, but wow… that’s a lot of people! It’s the first time I’ve stumbled across this blog, maybe I should dig deeper. You incredibly good at writing, got hundreds of very very interested friends or sumthin? I’ll have to read a bit more :)

]]> By: Chris Nystrom http://blogmaverick.com/2005/01/17/abandoned-by-the-dvd-business/#comment-6829 Chris Nystrom Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:01:40 +0000 http://blogmaverick.wordpress.com/2005/01/17/abandoned-by-the-dvd-business/#comment-6829 It sounds like you and Cringely are on the same page. He believe that Apple will be expanding iTunes into movie distribution: http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20050120.html It sounds like you and Cringely are on the same page. He believe that Apple will be expanding iTunes into movie distribution:

http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20050120.html

]]> By: scotty MFFL http://blogmaverick.com/2005/01/17/abandoned-by-the-dvd-business/#comment-6830 scotty MFFL Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:01:40 +0000 http://blogmaverick.wordpress.com/2005/01/17/abandoned-by-the-dvd-business/#comment-6830 Hey Cubes, How about DVDs and CDs in a protective case like the ones they used to have minidiscs in (remember those?) Anyways, keep up the D and whatever you do DON'T TRADE DANIELS OR HOWARD OR THE CITY WILL RIOT! Thanks Hey Cubes,
How about DVDs and CDs in a protective case like the ones they used to have minidiscs in (remember those?)
Anyways, keep up the D and whatever you do DON’T TRADE DANIELS OR HOWARD OR THE CITY WILL RIOT! Thanks

]]> By: Sean http://blogmaverick.com/2005/01/17/abandoned-by-the-dvd-business/#comment-6831 Sean Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:01:40 +0000 http://blogmaverick.wordpress.com/2005/01/17/abandoned-by-the-dvd-business/#comment-6831 Whats up Mark, I guess I'm not the only one who TIVO's Law & Order and basketball games. Whats up Mark,
I guess I’m not the only one who TIVO’s Law & Order and basketball games.

]]> By: Greg http://blogmaverick.com/2005/01/17/abandoned-by-the-dvd-business/#comment-6832 Greg Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:01:40 +0000 http://blogmaverick.wordpress.com/2005/01/17/abandoned-by-the-dvd-business/#comment-6832 Mark Check out these links about an external hard drive setup specifically for traveling with lots of videos. The thing even has a remote. I know you still have the conversion issues but currently I run a company that converts CDs to MP3s. DVD to another format maybe a service we over later this year. my thoughts on the prduct http://create-buzz.blogspot.com/2005/01/external-hard-drive-to-your-tv.html The products homepage http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10481 Mark

Check out these links about an external hard drive setup specifically for traveling with lots of videos. The thing even has a remote. I know you still have the conversion issues but currently I run a company that converts CDs to MP3s. DVD to another format maybe a service we over later this year.

my thoughts on the prduct
http://create-buzz.blogspot.com/2005/01/external-hard-drive-to-your-tv.html
The products homepage
http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10481

]]> By: Jay Hammer http://blogmaverick.com/2005/01/17/abandoned-by-the-dvd-business/#comment-6833 Jay Hammer Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:01:40 +0000 http://blogmaverick.wordpress.com/2005/01/17/abandoned-by-the-dvd-business/#comment-6833 There's no need to convert, extract or compress dvd content. There is a free tool available, daemon tools, http://www.daemon-tools.cc/ that solves your challenge. Simply copy the image file of the dvd to your hard drive. Through daemon tools, you can emulate a dvd drive on your computer, through which you can mount the dvd image file from your hard drive. Your computer sees it as a dvd in the dvd player and plays through whichever player you choose. This also helps extend battery life on your laptop. There’s no need to convert, extract or compress dvd content. There is a free tool available, daemon tools, http://www.daemon-tools.cc/ that solves your challenge. Simply copy the image file of the dvd to your hard drive. Through daemon tools, you can emulate a dvd drive on your computer, through which you can mount the dvd image file from your hard drive. Your computer sees it as a dvd in the dvd player and plays through whichever player you choose. This also helps extend battery life on your laptop.

]]> By: kaine http://blogmaverick.com/2005/01/17/abandoned-by-the-dvd-business/#comment-6834 kaine Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:01:40 +0000 http://blogmaverick.wordpress.com/2005/01/17/abandoned-by-the-dvd-business/#comment-6834 hi guys. whats the best software to use for extracting dvds into video files for the best possible quality? thanks in advance! hi guys. whats the best software to use for extracting dvds into video files for the best possible quality? thanks in advance!

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