Comments on: Back to Backs in the NBA http://blogmaverick.com/2005/12/21/back-to-backs-in-the-nba/ the mark cuban weblog Sat, 20 Mar 2010 07:04:31 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Mike http://blogmaverick.com/2005/12/21/back-to-backs-in-the-nba/#comment-12910 Mike Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:22 +0000 http://blogmaverick.wordpress.com/2005/12/21/back-to-backs-in-the-nba/#comment-12910 Vegas adjusts the lines. According to my database, teams without any rest are 1108-1465 (43.1%) since the start of 2001-2002 season. Against the line, teams without any rest are 1219-1309-45 (48.2%). Vegas adjusts the lines. According to my database, teams without any rest are 1108-1465 (43.1%) since the start of 2001-2002 season. Against the line, teams without any rest are 1219-1309-45 (48.2%).

]]> By: Mike G. http://blogmaverick.com/2005/12/21/back-to-backs-in-the-nba/#comment-12885 Mike G. Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:16 +0000 http://blogmaverick.wordpress.com/2005/12/21/back-to-backs-in-the-nba/#comment-12885 I would guess that the next logical question is what are the teams with the most back-to-back games? Also, depending on the arena and city, who has the final say on dates [hockey/concerts/basketball/etc]. Does a bigger market team have the clout to schedule fewer consecutive games? I would guess that the next logical question is what are the teams with the most back-to-back games? Also, depending on the arena and city, who has the final say on dates [hockey/concerts/basketball/etc]. Does a bigger market team have the clout to schedule fewer consecutive games?

]]> By: Kevin Glennon http://blogmaverick.com/2005/12/21/back-to-backs-in-the-nba/#comment-12886 Kevin Glennon Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:16 +0000 http://blogmaverick.wordpress.com/2005/12/21/back-to-backs-in-the-nba/#comment-12886 I totally hear you Mark. You're ABSOLUTELY right. Let's follow the lead of the NFL. Let's make basketball season 16 weeks, and only schedule one game each week. That should remove any doubt that your athletes are at their prime, right? I'm sure performance is the standard by which all owners measure their teams. Profitability due to an obnoxious number of games in the short season has nothing to do with it. Just like how you'll never consider advertisements on the uniforms, right? Because we care so much about how players can't afford nice suits when they're on the bench, why open the discussion for even MORE costs for the patches on the uniforms? Dude, do you ever read your own posts? Seriously? I totally hear you Mark. You’re ABSOLUTELY right.

Let’s follow the lead of the NFL. Let’s make basketball season 16 weeks, and only schedule one game each week. That should remove any doubt that your athletes are at their prime, right?

I’m sure performance is the standard by which all owners measure their teams. Profitability due to an obnoxious number of games in the short season has nothing to do with it.

Just like how you’ll never consider advertisements on the uniforms, right? Because we care so much about how players can’t afford nice suits when they’re on the bench, why open the discussion for even MORE costs for the patches on the uniforms?

Dude, do you ever read your own posts? Seriously?

]]> By: penxv http://blogmaverick.com/2005/12/21/back-to-backs-in-the-nba/#comment-12887 penxv Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:16 +0000 http://blogmaverick.wordpress.com/2005/12/21/back-to-backs-in-the-nba/#comment-12887 Mark, The raw numbers are this... 1100 wins and 1457 losses. That is a 43% winning percentage with a fairly large sample size. Mark,
The raw numbers are this… 1100 wins and 1457 losses.

That is a 43% winning percentage with a fairly large sample size.

]]> By: penxv http://blogmaverick.com/2005/12/21/back-to-backs-in-the-nba/#comment-12888 penxv Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:16 +0000 http://blogmaverick.wordpress.com/2005/12/21/back-to-backs-in-the-nba/#comment-12888 The sample size is 2557. Giving us a 1.9% margin of error. The sample size is 2557. Giving us a 1.9% margin of error.

]]> By: penxv http://blogmaverick.com/2005/12/21/back-to-backs-in-the-nba/#comment-12889 penxv Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:16 +0000 http://blogmaverick.wordpress.com/2005/12/21/back-to-backs-in-the-nba/#comment-12889 If you would look a little deeper into the stats and give me all of the games where a team that played for the second night in a row played a team that came off of a day off, then the effect of playing two nights in a row would be better measured. - It's because then... you would be comparing it 1 to 1 with what you want to compare it to. - In the stats that you gave, I bet that many of the games had both teams playing for the second night in a row. Making that game a wash (50-50). And it would throw off the sample size. If you would look a little deeper into the stats and give me all of the games where a team that played for the second night in a row played a team that came off of a day off, then the effect of playing two nights in a row would be better measured.

- It’s because then… you would be comparing it 1 to 1 with what you want to compare it to.

- In the stats that you gave, I bet that many of the games had both teams playing for the second night in a row. Making that game a wash (50-50). And it would throw off the sample size.

]]> By: Paul K http://blogmaverick.com/2005/12/21/back-to-backs-in-the-nba/#comment-12890 Paul K Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:16 +0000 http://blogmaverick.wordpress.com/2005/12/21/back-to-backs-in-the-nba/#comment-12890 Good stuff, penxv. It clearly does have a real effect. Some more thoughts: to really see the full effect, you would need to compare each team's performance in game 2 of back to backs vs. performance the rest of the season, and over several years. I suspect you would get some interesting results about what type of team is more adversely affected and possibly about how aging plays into it (for example, run and gun vs. half-court oriented, teams with younger players vs. older players, etc.). How about also looking into numbers of injuries in the second game of b2bs? To Kevin Glennon: You don't have to change scheduling policies to do some valuable stuff with this info--maybe redistribute minutes or adjust play style at times. Good stuff, penxv. It clearly does have a real effect.

Some more thoughts: to really see the full effect, you would need to compare each team’s performance in game 2 of back to backs vs. performance the rest of the season, and over several years. I suspect you would get some interesting results about what type of team is more adversely affected and possibly about how aging plays into it (for example, run and gun vs. half-court oriented, teams with younger players vs. older players, etc.). How about also looking into numbers of injuries in the second game of b2bs?

To Kevin Glennon: You don’t have to change scheduling policies to do some valuable stuff with this info–maybe redistribute minutes or adjust play style at times.

]]> By: Dave H http://blogmaverick.com/2005/12/21/back-to-backs-in-the-nba/#comment-12891 Dave H Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:16 +0000 http://blogmaverick.wordpress.com/2005/12/21/back-to-backs-in-the-nba/#comment-12891 Mark -- Good analysis. Lets extend it to baseball and hockey. Although-- I would assume the upper echelons in the leagues would inately realize this and try to utilize this to help really poor teams win in thier home markets more. Attendence is what makes a team profitable right? And when all is said and done, the NBA, the NFL, the NHL or anyother major league's top goal is to make money. Mark –

Good analysis. Lets extend it to baseball and hockey. Although– I would assume the upper echelons in the leagues would inately realize this and try to utilize this to help really poor teams win in thier home markets more. Attendence is what makes a team profitable right? And when all is said and done, the NBA, the NFL, the NHL or anyother major league’s top goal is to make money.

]]> By: Phil http://blogmaverick.com/2005/12/21/back-to-backs-in-the-nba/#comment-12892 Phil Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:16 +0000 http://blogmaverick.wordpress.com/2005/12/21/back-to-backs-in-the-nba/#comment-12892 Just thought it interesting to note that the Celtics finally won 2 games in a row, but both wins came against teams playing the 2nd of back-to-back games, and both on the road too. There's no doubt that helped. Just thought it interesting to note that the Celtics finally won 2 games in a row, but both wins came against teams playing the 2nd of back-to-back games, and both on the road too. There’s no doubt that helped.

]]> By: Kyle Sullivan http://blogmaverick.com/2005/12/21/back-to-backs-in-the-nba/#comment-12893 Kyle Sullivan Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:16 +0000 http://blogmaverick.wordpress.com/2005/12/21/back-to-backs-in-the-nba/#comment-12893 Here is an interesting stat which might be more statistically meaningful: The Celtics are now 5-0 this season when their opponent has played the night before and they have been idle. Here is an interesting stat which might be more statistically meaningful: The Celtics are now 5-0 this season when their opponent has played the night before and they have been idle.

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