Comments on: The Youngest and Oldest Teams in the NBA http://blogmaverick.com/2005/12/30/the-youngest-and-oldest-teams-in-the-nba/ the mark cuban weblog Sat, 20 Mar 2010 07:04:31 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: MIke http://blogmaverick.com/2005/12/30/the-youngest-and-oldest-teams-in-the-nba/#comment-13015 MIke Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:24 +0000 http://blogmaverick.wordpress.com/2005/12/30/the-youngest-and-oldest-teams-in-the-nba/#comment-13015 Mark, Sometimes I wonder how you became a billionaire when you have so much time on your hands... ;-) Some interesting stats, how would you assess the sport of baseball lineups? Mark,
Sometimes I wonder how you became a billionaire when you have so much time on your hands…
;-)

Some interesting stats, how would you assess the sport of baseball lineups?

]]> By: dan devasto http://blogmaverick.com/2005/12/30/the-youngest-and-oldest-teams-in-the-nba/#comment-13016 dan devasto Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:24 +0000 http://blogmaverick.wordpress.com/2005/12/30/the-youngest-and-oldest-teams-in-the-nba/#comment-13016 Interesting and helpful info Could you post the data as an excel file that can be downloaded which would be helpful for everyone to manipulate the data Interesting and helpful info
Could you post the data as an excel file that can be downloaded which would be helpful for everyone to manipulate the data

]]> By: Jason http://blogmaverick.com/2005/12/30/the-youngest-and-oldest-teams-in-the-nba/#comment-13017 Jason Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:24 +0000 http://blogmaverick.wordpress.com/2005/12/30/the-youngest-and-oldest-teams-in-the-nba/#comment-13017 No big surprise that Detroit's used the fewest lineups. Not only do they avoid injury problems, but it looks like Larry Brown's short rotation is holding over in the Flip Saunders era. I wonder what that means for whether they'll be able to keep up the pace they're playing. No big surprise that Detroit’s used the fewest lineups. Not only do they avoid injury problems, but it looks like Larry Brown’s short rotation is holding over in the Flip Saunders era.

I wonder what that means for whether they’ll be able to keep up the pace they’re playing.

]]> By: JR Ewing http://blogmaverick.com/2005/12/30/the-youngest-and-oldest-teams-in-the-nba/#comment-13018 JR Ewing Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:24 +0000 http://blogmaverick.wordpress.com/2005/12/30/the-youngest-and-oldest-teams-in-the-nba/#comment-13018 Don't count Artest against the great Pacer team. Of course, if Bird and Walsh are smart, they will trade him to a crappy team for next year's 1st rounder and others to make the deal work which would make the Pacer average less. That would show Ronny, send him to the Raptors for some picks. They can have Jax too as someone needs to tell him he is not a shooter, but yet he plays shooting guard. Go figure. Don’t count Artest against the great Pacer team. Of course, if Bird and Walsh are smart, they will trade him to a crappy team for next year’s 1st rounder and others to make the deal work which would make the Pacer average less. That would show Ronny, send him to the Raptors for some picks. They can have Jax too as someone needs to tell him he is not a shooter, but yet he plays shooting guard. Go figure.

]]> By: Scott Pinkston http://blogmaverick.com/2005/12/30/the-youngest-and-oldest-teams-in-the-nba/#comment-13019 Scott Pinkston Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:24 +0000 http://blogmaverick.wordpress.com/2005/12/30/the-youngest-and-oldest-teams-in-the-nba/#comment-13019 Marc, can you post win/loss records by average age? Curious to see how the age factors into w&l. I could look it up myself but I am lazy and you seem to have the number anyways. Marc, can you post win/loss records by average age? Curious to see how the age factors into w&l.

I could look it up myself but I am lazy and you seem to have the number anyways.

]]> By: Todd http://blogmaverick.com/2005/12/30/the-youngest-and-oldest-teams-in-the-nba/#comment-13020 Todd Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:24 +0000 http://blogmaverick.wordpress.com/2005/12/30/the-youngest-and-oldest-teams-in-the-nba/#comment-13020 Mike, I don't believe that Mark is compiling these stats. I live in Dallas and read the job postings on the Mavericks website. A couple of weeks ago or so I saw that he was hiring a statistician. Probably has more than one on the staff. Mike,
I don’t believe that Mark is compiling these stats. I live in Dallas and read the job postings on the Mavericks website. A couple of weeks ago or so I saw that he was hiring a statistician. Probably has more than one on the staff.

]]> By: Sam O http://blogmaverick.com/2005/12/30/the-youngest-and-oldest-teams-in-the-nba/#comment-13021 Sam O Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:24 +0000 http://blogmaverick.wordpress.com/2005/12/30/the-youngest-and-oldest-teams-in-the-nba/#comment-13021 Correlation coefficient between age and winning %: 0.4096 Getting the most wins from their age: 1) DET 2) DAL (large jump to #3) 3) SAS 4) MIL 5) CLE Worst: 1) TOR 2) NYK 3) ATL 4) HOU 5) CHA If you're looking for a new team to cheer for the next 5 years, DAL, MIL, and CLE (barring the loss of #23) look like good potentials. Correlation coefficient between age and winning %: 0.4096

Getting the most wins from their age:

1) DET
2) DAL (large jump to #3)
3) SAS
4) MIL
5) CLE

Worst:

1) TOR
2) NYK
3) ATL
4) HOU
5) CHA

If you’re looking for a new team to cheer for the next 5 years, DAL, MIL, and CLE (barring the loss of #23) look like good potentials.

]]> By: tim gibbons http://blogmaverick.com/2005/12/30/the-youngest-and-oldest-teams-in-the-nba/#comment-13022 tim gibbons Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:24 +0000 http://blogmaverick.wordpress.com/2005/12/30/the-youngest-and-oldest-teams-in-the-nba/#comment-13022 Aside from age, what about experience? And, not experience based on # of seasons played, but # of minutes played? Kobe Bryant is a young guy, but he has played a ton of minutes. Aside from age, what about experience? And, not experience based on # of seasons played, but # of minutes played? Kobe Bryant is a young guy, but he has played a ton of minutes.

]]> By: David http://blogmaverick.com/2005/12/30/the-youngest-and-oldest-teams-in-the-nba/#comment-13023 David Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:24 +0000 http://blogmaverick.wordpress.com/2005/12/30/the-youngest-and-oldest-teams-in-the-nba/#comment-13023 Hey Mike (post 1), Wouldn't you think the time is the result, not the effect? Kind of the chicken and the egg thing. Clearly, the time can second. Hey Mike (post 1),

Wouldn’t you think the time is the result, not the effect? Kind of the chicken and the egg thing. Clearly, the time can second.

]]> By: Val http://blogmaverick.com/2005/12/30/the-youngest-and-oldest-teams-in-the-nba/#comment-13024 Val Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:24 +0000 http://blogmaverick.wordpress.com/2005/12/30/the-youngest-and-oldest-teams-in-the-nba/#comment-13024 Interesting for sure. However, while stats are relative in that they are a representation of reality they never exactly can predict or match reality - leaving room for other things such as gut feel, experience, talent in personnel selection, teaching and training giftedness in development of human resources etc as further wildcards to throw an X factor into it possibly. That is, if something was done in a team, that went off all the charts statistics-wise, and that combination proved magical and led to a championship team, I bet that other teams would possibly try to emulate that trend numberically also, but that would not necessarily lead to their success also. The numbers really are not the important part of it, and numbers would not necessarily show key intangibles like gelling, synergy, group-think, team-sensibility, positive energy, synchronicity, great communication skills, complementarity of skills, will to achieve, professional and personal maturity and flexibility, faith and belief, persistence, patience, personality compatibility, social contribution, giftedness, developmental potential, luck, interpersonal sensitivity, potential skills, or maybe just plain abuncance of serendipity, and also guts in risk taking to make decisions when the number trends don't support it. but the decision seems right otherwise, and when tried somehow works better than imagined. I doubt that any statistical analysis can ever reflect how individual elite athletes mesh or not as a group for example. Although relevant, helpful, insightful, and interesting, statistical analyses is still no match for great/inspired personnel selection/development imho, as long as people remain people. Val Interesting for sure. However, while stats are relative in that they are a representation of reality they never exactly can predict or match reality – leaving room for other things such as gut feel, experience, talent in personnel selection, teaching and training giftedness in development of human resources etc as further wildcards to throw an X factor into it possibly. That is, if something was done in a team, that went off all the charts statistics-wise, and that combination proved magical and led to a championship team, I bet that other teams would possibly try to emulate that trend numberically also, but that would not necessarily lead to their success also. The numbers really are not the important part of it, and numbers would not necessarily show key intangibles like gelling, synergy, group-think, team-sensibility, positive energy, synchronicity, great communication skills, complementarity of skills, will to achieve, professional and personal maturity and flexibility, faith and belief, persistence, patience, personality compatibility, social contribution, giftedness, developmental potential, luck, interpersonal sensitivity, potential skills, or maybe just plain abuncance of serendipity, and also guts in risk taking to make decisions when the number trends don’t support it. but the decision seems right otherwise, and when tried somehow works better than imagined. I doubt that any statistical analysis can ever reflect how individual elite athletes mesh or not as a group for example. Although relevant, helpful, insightful, and interesting, statistical analyses is still no match for great/inspired personnel selection/development imho, as long as people remain people. Val

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