Comments on: Some All Star NBA advice

By: raf

raf — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:35 +0000

I agree with Luis’s comments that Robert Stevens is an idiot, and maybe even a jackass!

By: Jonathan

Jonathan — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:35 +0000

That the Mavs and Spurs are going to play in the semis isn’t the only problem with the seeding. Consider the playoff road the #5 seed is going to have, vs. the road the #6 and even #7 seeds will face. Wouldn’t you rather be the #6? This will happen pretty much every year, until this is fixed.

And don’t say that it doesn’t matter, you’ve got to be able to beat anyone in order to make the finals, anyway. The better teams should be rewarded with better playoff positioning, and a better chance at more playoff rounds.

As for the fix, I don’t like revolving everything around some arbitrary number of wins. Why not just award the three division winners and the best non-division winner as the 1-4 seeds, in order of record? Small change, but resolves the whole problem. You can even allow the higher seed home court, if you want.

By: HumanityCritic

HumanityCritic — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:35 +0000

I have to agree with you on the All-Star voting. The way its a popularity contest where undeserving players get voted in is ridiculous.

By: Vic

Vic — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:35 +0000

I disagree with your All-Star voting ideas. The All-Star game IS a popularity contest. On purpose! Lets just get it out of everyone’s head right now that no player “should” be in the all star game; no player “should” start. If there was criteria on which it were based then there would be no need for voting! The fans get to see who they like the most in the game. Your ideas and a lot of others around the league can be summed up as anti-Chinese. So what if Yao gets the most votes? So what if he starts? So you and everyone else tries to think of any way you can to discount the Chinese fan. Its BS!

The other distinction you want to make is hand ballot versus internet vote. This is just plain wrong. NBA games have become so expensive now, that only upper middle class can sit in the average seat. This discrimination is based purely on socio-economic status. It has nothing to do with how big a fan you are. A LOT of ppl I see at games are not TRUE fans. Some are on dates, some are working business deals, others are there for the social scene. True fans could be those up in the nosebleed who can’t see shit but still go, but it could just as easily be the kid who watches every game at home with his worn-out dwayne wade jersey on.

By: taylor

taylor — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:35 +0000

there is nothing right about the all-star voting, it is nothing more than a popularity contest, not who deserves it. mcgrady has NO right to be in the game PERIOD. he has missed 13(?) games and has played poorly and his team sucks. same goes for yao. yao especially shouldnt be in the game, he ahs done nothing worth even making consideration for the all star team. to be honest shaq also does deserve it, he has missed 18(?) games and is avg. less than 20 ppg and 9rpg. dirk does deserve to start, his stats prove it, his teams wins prove it and his clutch scring proves it. dont say dirk is soft (post #11) without saying mcgrady is soft to because he is. he constantly makes a big deal out of evry little ache and pain, he is a woose. PERIOD. chris paul should be on the roster rather than t-mac.

By: Jay

Jay — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:35 +0000

Mark,

Basketball fan in limbo here (used to like the Nets, can’t stand the fact they’re moving to NYC).

Under your international voting system would Canada be considered international then? I mean you have an entire country of Raptor and Steve Nash fans. No matter what Canada is getting the ole’ heave-ho.

By: Jay

Jay — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:35 +0000

Wouldn’t it be much easier to just get rid of divisions? There is no point to them. Since the conference schedule is balanced, as you pointed out, what’s the point of a division? Wining your division doesn’t really mean you won the division, it just means you have the best record of others teams arbitrarily grouped with you.

It’s not like the NFL where schedules are weighted toward the divisions and divisions are regional for travel considerations.

Just have a conference and seed the teams 1-8 with the best record period.

Who wants a division winner in the playoffs if they have the 9th best record overall? They don’t deserve to be there.

By: Louis Dancier

Louis Dancier — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:35 +0000

I disagree completely with the All-Star Voting plan that you presented. First of all, I think that the internet voter is generally a more knowledgable and passionate voter than an in-game voter. I’ve been to games and seen people vote. Usually, its a bunch of people copying off of the one dude that’s pretending to be the guru. A lot of the fans are just people that got tickets from their company or their friends, and they just want to punch some chads for practice. The internet voter goes out of their way to vote. It’s always a premeditated plan.

I think that there should be no in-game voting. That way nobody just gets a ballot tossed in their lap. They always have to explicitly act if they want their vote to count. The in-game patrons can go online if they want to vote. If you really care, you will take the time.

There should be two types of votes, on-line and professional(coaches,players,etc). Each player should be ranked seperately by the two types, and then weighted together 50/50. So if Yao is the #1 Center in the West on-line and #5 by pros, he’ll get 6 points. If Camby is #3 on-line and #2 by pros. He’ll Get 5 points. Lowest score wins.

Also, its obviously unfair for a player to lose their All-Star position to someone who’s only played in 50% of their games.

What do you think?

By: Monica

Monica — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:35 +0000

How can I tell a fake nba all star jersey from a real one?

By: Clayton

Clayton — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:35 +0000

this is sad, of course the all-star game isnt about “who the people want to see”, its about rewarding those who have had a quality season up to that point. you want a popularity contest, stick to nba forum arguements. its called the all-star game for a reason. its not the how many oblivious to the game fans can blindly vote for players who dont deserve to be there game. yao ming? get real. cambys been nice, but even he has missed half the year so far. okur shouldve gotten the nod, if the voters had any true sense about them. the amount of games youve played up until the event should seriously count as well. i think if youve missed at least 65% of your teams games, then how exactly are you delivering an all-star performance??? cheerleading in pinstripe suits on the sidelines??? the game has clearly lost its novelty in recent years. as far as china is concerned, when it comes to basketball? theyre idiots. yao is an oft injured golem in the paint. at least ichiro backs up his legions of mindless all-star voters with unreal performance year in and year out.