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		<title>By: Brian Long</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark,An well understood point by experienced investors; sadly, not a well understood point by &quot;mom and pop&quot; investors.  In law school, we gave a presentation to our professor (a very experienced investor) about options and how they incent management to meet a target for their stock price.  The incentive does not align the interests of management with long term investors.  Management is incented to   barely beat numbers they provide to analysts so they can get a &quot;pop&quot; in the stock price.  They are also incented to create volatility in the stock price (which increases the value of options) by playing games with their numbers.  Experienced investors know that accounting is more art than science; management also knows this and uses this fact, legally and sometimes illegally, to their advantage.  (Our professor had problems with our analysis, thinking that options were good, but I still stand by our analysis.)The emphasis on diversification and long term investments (although both good things in the abstract) exacerbate the problem.  Since each holding is only a small part of your portfolio, the agency problem becomes bigger.  Sadly, I don&#039;t see an end to this problem.  The only solution is more active management which brings its own greedy set of problems. (See, e.g. Warren Buffet&#039;s latest letter to shareholders at berkshirehathaway.com.)  As public markets become more public, the agency problem grows and management will continue to enrich itself at the expense of shareholders.Experienced investors can only help themselves; they cannot help everyone else.  I wish there was a better solution to this problem, but until investors are smart enough to solve this problem for themselves they will suffer the consequences of their mis- or non-information.By the way, I loved your reality TV show.  It was much better than any of the ones still running.  In particular, the &quot;you&#039;re fired&quot;, everyone selfish, B.S. show.  Thanks for trying to inform people about what it takes to be successful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>An well understood point by experienced investors; sadly, not a well understood point by &#8220;mom and pop&#8221; investors.  </p>
<p>In law school, we gave a presentation to our professor (a very experienced investor) about options and how they incent management to meet a target for their stock price.  The incentive does not align the interests of management with long term investors.  Management is incented to   barely beat numbers they provide to analysts so they can get a &#8220;pop&#8221; in the stock price.  </p>
<p>They are also incented to create volatility in the stock price (which increases the value of options) by playing games with their numbers.  Experienced investors know that accounting is more art than science; management also knows this and uses this fact, legally and sometimes illegally, to their advantage.  (Our professor had problems with our analysis, thinking that options were good, but I still stand by our analysis.)</p>
<p>The emphasis on diversification and long term investments (although both good things in the abstract) exacerbate the problem.  Since each holding is only a small part of your portfolio, the agency problem becomes bigger.  </p>
<p>Sadly, I don&#8217;t see an end to this problem.  The only solution is more active management which brings its own greedy set of problems. (See, e.g. Warren Buffet&#8217;s latest letter to shareholders at berkshirehathaway.com.)  As public markets become more public, the agency problem grows and management will continue to enrich itself at the expense of shareholders.</p>
<p>Experienced investors can only help themselves; they cannot help everyone else.  I wish there was a better solution to this problem, but until investors are smart enough to solve this problem for themselves they will suffer the consequences of their mis- or non-information.</p>
<p>By the way, I loved your reality TV show.  It was much better than any of the ones still running.  In particular, the &#8220;you&#8217;re fired&#8221;, everyone selfish, B.S. show.  Thanks for trying to inform people about what it takes to be successful.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its interesting how Mark says his argument is against &quot;prevailing wisdom&quot; and yet I am the ONLY commenter here that is against him.  About becoming an &quot;experienced&quot; investor by going to Law school, I have little to say.  I went to a top 15 MBA school and am still &quot;mom and pop&quot;. I am open minded.  But, unfortunately nobody has given EVEN ONE EXAMPLE to demonstrate Mark&#039;s theory.  Really, without examples we are just left with a &quot;People Magazine&quot; level of analysis.An aside here.  Mark does not talk about stock options.  He talks about CEOs owning stock.  NOT THE SAME THING.  The risk/reward curve for options is very different than for stock ownership.  Options holders are much more likely to have a &quot;hit a homerun&quot; mentality as basehits could be of little or no value.  For example 1 million options at $51 have no value at a stock price of $50 and have the SAME value to the CEO at $10.  If he could just get it to $75... but wouldn&#039;t the shareholders be pissed!!! (lol)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its interesting how Mark says his argument is against &#8220;prevailing wisdom&#8221; and yet I am the ONLY commenter here that is against him.  </p>
<p>About becoming an &#8220;experienced&#8221; investor by going to Law school, I have little to say.  I went to a top 15 MBA school and am still &#8220;mom and pop&#8221;. </p>
<p>I am open minded.  But, unfortunately nobody has given EVEN ONE EXAMPLE to demonstrate Mark&#8217;s theory.  Really, without examples we are just left with a &#8220;People Magazine&#8221; level of analysis.</p>
<p>An aside here.  Mark does not talk about stock options.  He talks about CEOs owning stock.  NOT THE SAME THING.  The risk/reward curve for options is very different than for stock ownership.  Options holders are much more likely to have a &#8220;hit a homerun&#8221; mentality as basehits could be of little or no value.  For example 1 million options at $51 have no value at a stock price of $50 and have the SAME value to the CEO at $10.  If he could just get it to $75&#8230; but wouldn&#8217;t the shareholders be pissed!!! (lol)</p>
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		<title>By: JohnD</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This entry is featured on the blog associated with the NY Times-- http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/?p=842 (&quot;Mark Cuban, CEO’s and the Big Lie,&quot; 3/17/06)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This entry is featured on the blog associated with the NY Times&#8211; <a href="http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/?p=842" rel="nofollow">http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/?p=842</a> (&#8220;Mark Cuban, CEO’s and the Big Lie,&#8221; 3/17/06)</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.theonion.com/content/node/46231&quot;Report: Many Jobs Lack Benefits to Cut&quot;March 13, 2006The Onionexcerpt:...employers are reporting difficulty finding job benefits to eliminate...]]></description>
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<p>&#8220;Report: Many Jobs Lack Benefits to Cut&#8221;<br />
March 13, 2006<br />
The Onion</p>
<p>excerpt:</p>
<p>&#8230;employers are reporting difficulty finding job benefits to eliminate&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: gadget boy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gadget boy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When CEO&#039;s start dumping stock because they know their company is about to tank while putting out positive press releases...I would say that their interestes are not aligned with shareholders.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When CEO&#8217;s start dumping stock because they know their company is about to tank while putting out positive press releases&#8230;I would say that their interestes are not aligned with shareholders.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Wavetheory</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr Wavetheory]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By the way, is Google sexist and racist? The 10-K seems to say so.http://mrwavetheory.blogspot.com/2006/03/google-why-are-you-so-sexist-and.htmlAlso, more info on how Google may be running out of steam - slow down in revenue per queryhttp://mrwavetheory.blogspot.com/2006/03/key-metric-at-google-revenue-per-query.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, is Google sexist and racist? The 10-K seems to say so.</p>
<p><a href="http://mrwavetheory.blogspot.com/2006/03/google-why-are-you-so-sexist-and.html" rel="nofollow">http://mrwavetheory.blogspot.com/2006/03/google-why-are-you-so-sexist-and.html</a></p>
<p>Also, more info on how Google may be running out of steam &#8211; slow down in revenue per query</p>
<p><a href="http://mrwavetheory.blogspot.com/2006/03/key-metric-at-google-revenue-per-query.html" rel="nofollow">http://mrwavetheory.blogspot.com/2006/03/key-metric-at-google-revenue-per-query.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FINALLY...Someone with money who has been there telling it like it really is.  I just have to shake my head when someone tries to convince me top management has the same interest as me--&quot;well, we&#039;re all shareholders.&quot;  Yes but I paid full price for mine.  Thanks Mark for being honest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FINALLY&#8230;Someone with money who has been there telling it like it really is.  I just have to shake my head when someone tries to convince me top management has the same interest as me&#8211;&#8221;well, we&#8217;re all shareholders.&#8221;  Yes but I paid full price for mine.  Thanks Mark for being honest.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Enough said.http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/P145685.asp]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enough said.</p>
<p><a href="http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/P145685.asp" rel="nofollow">http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/P145685.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steve W</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve W]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good piece Mark.  I wish more in your position would speak out like that.  The one factor that seems to be overlooked in this discussion is the fact mutual funds have become the investment of choice among American investors.  When the interests of so many become spread thin over so many funds, no one is accountable to anyone.  Most fund investors have no idea where their money is.  They assume someone, better able, is taking care of it.  Little do they know that they are likely more capable than the fund manager.  The fund manager will take more risk since he is not using his own money.  Most people don&#039;t understand the risk that they are exposed to by owning equities through mutual funds (especially growth funds).  Fund managers are not pressing for good governance, fair executive compensation, or honest accounting (GAAP).  They are content to invest in companies that have never earned one thin dime, use pro-forma (EBITDA) reporting (to hide the truth), steal from shareholders by disgracefully large stock based compensation plans (without expensing them), and incestuous relationships among directors (executive compensation committees).  Many of these companies are marginally profitable but their insiders are enriching themselves, not by honest profits in the enterprise but by selling their stock to the public. Brokers and investment banks aid in the scheme to distribute worthless stock to the unsuspecting public through mutual funds who siphon off the top through fees.  Fund managers don&#039;t care one whit about how a company is run, whether it&#039;s profitable or its insiders are making themselves rich and neither does Mr. and Mrs. American Investor since they don&#039;t know they own companies like that.  If the momentum is running in that direction, they&#039;ll be there and when it&#039;s not, you lose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good piece Mark.  I wish more in your position would speak out like that.  The one factor that seems to be overlooked in this discussion is the fact mutual funds have become the investment of choice among American investors.  When the interests of so many become spread thin over so many funds, no one is accountable to anyone.  Most fund investors have no idea where their money is.  They assume someone, better able, is taking care of it.  Little do they know that they are likely more capable than the fund manager.  The fund manager will take more risk since he is not using his own money.  Most people don&#8217;t understand the risk that they are exposed to by owning equities through mutual funds (especially growth funds).  Fund managers are not pressing for good governance, fair executive compensation, or honest accounting (GAAP).  They are content to invest in companies that have never earned one thin dime, use pro-forma (EBITDA) reporting (to hide the truth), steal from shareholders by disgracefully large stock based compensation plans (without expensing them), and incestuous relationships among directors (executive compensation committees).  Many of these companies are marginally profitable but their insiders are enriching themselves, not by honest profits in the enterprise but by selling their stock to the public. Brokers and investment banks aid in the scheme to distribute worthless stock to the unsuspecting public through mutual funds who siphon off the top through fees.  Fund managers don&#8217;t care one whit about how a company is run, whether it&#8217;s profitable or its insiders are making themselves rich and neither does Mr. and Mrs. American Investor since they don&#8217;t know they own companies like that.  If the momentum is running in that direction, they&#8217;ll be there and when it&#8217;s not, you lose.</p>
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		<title>By: nate</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nate]]></dc:creator>
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<p>Consider clicking on &#8220;Take-Off from Bath Tub&#8221; at site above (see bottom-right corner).  Any input on bankruptcy process at United?</p>
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