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		<title>By: CarloansCanada</title>
		<link>http://blogmaverick.com/2008/12/23/what-about-the-bank-bailout-money/#comment-57586</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 13:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have worked with Banks for Over 20 years in Canada and I am now
seeing the affects of the US Sub-Prime Issues. Canadian Banks also
received bailouts from the Canadian Government and instead of loosening
their lending they have tightened it to an almost strangle hold?
Even with the Sub-Prime auto Loans and Prime Auto Loans in Canada the banks
have tightened their approval process. Just a month ago I could get an
auto approval for anyone with a 680 beacon score of higher. Now the Banks
are turning down people with 700+ Beacons and sending them to their
sub-prime divisions dedicated for people with bad credit? 
I&#039;m amazed at how Banks get money from Tax payers but yet refuse to help them?
After years of Billion dollar quarterly Profits and Government Bailouts
Banks still are slow to loosen their strong hold on money]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have worked with Banks for Over 20 years in Canada and I am now<br />
seeing the affects of the US Sub-Prime Issues. Canadian Banks also<br />
received bailouts from the Canadian Government and instead of loosening<br />
their lending they have tightened it to an almost strangle hold?<br />
Even with the Sub-Prime auto Loans and Prime Auto Loans in Canada the banks<br />
have tightened their approval process. Just a month ago I could get an<br />
auto approval for anyone with a 680 beacon score of higher. Now the Banks<br />
are turning down people with 700+ Beacons and sending them to their<br />
sub-prime divisions dedicated for people with bad credit?<br />
I&#8217;m amazed at how Banks get money from Tax payers but yet refuse to help them?<br />
After years of Billion dollar quarterly Profits and Government Bailouts<br />
Banks still are slow to loosen their strong hold on money</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie Phillips</title>
		<link>http://blogmaverick.com/2008/12/23/what-about-the-bank-bailout-money/#comment-57309</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Debbie Phillips]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are bail outs to the banks really the answer? Is there a secret real estate market with only information available to a few?

 

Is bail out relief in the billions to banks and the mortgage industry really the answer? Will it really help the economy or hurt the economy and country even more? We have many families losing jobs and the highest unemployment in 15 years hitting 9.3% in Los Angeles. California being more and more less desirable for businesses to remain in California or be able to do their business here. 


Is it just another way for the rich to get richer and the poor get poorer? Just another way for wealthy investors to flip homes? Isn’t many of the reasons why we are really in this mortgage mess is investors flipping properties, some realtors not listing homes on the MLS so they can double end a property instead of split a commission, only present an offer to a homeowner if that listing real estate agent represents the homebuyer too and even holding open houses and telling a homebuyer if they really want this home they can’t use their real estate agent and would have to go through the listing agent to get the home, telling a homebuyer to get that home the homebuyer would have to pay such and such price and at times $100,000 or even more over the last recent sale in the same year. Even real estate agents were told that there is so many relocating to Southern California that from this point on there will not be enough housing to those moving to Southern California and many homebuyers may never be able to afford to buy a home due to increasing prices so homebuyers will need to pay the growing inflated prices. Homebuyers getting an interest only loan just so they could get into a home thinking in a few years there would be so much equity in their home they can refinance getting a better loan or just buy another upgraded home.


I’ve personally lived in Canyon Lake for 3 years and some homes have been sitting vacant since before I’ve lived here and obviously no one has maintained the home including water and probably the POA dues weren’t paid by someone. Seeing the properties sit vacant for at least 3 years and not even having a for sale sign or on the MLS personally ticks me off. In the 1990’s banks would list their properties with real estate agents and put the homes on the MLS once vacant and available so the home still had a chance to sell for a fair price not hurting the property values drastically as home auctions. In today’s economy many families are willing to work with the banks, still many getting kicked out of their homes because the bank won’t work with them, the homes sit vacant long lengths at a time with no real estate sign and not even listed for sale, not on the MLS so real estate agents and the public see it available and have the opportunity to be sold at a fair price and even auction off the home for an unreasonable way below even current market values. 

 

Example a Canyon Lake home sold in August 2004 single family residence, 1500 sq. ft. waterfront with dock, 50 ft. wide lot, sale price $690,000 loan amount $565,000. The homeowner recently had financial problems and instead of the bank reappraising the home to today’s fair market value, negotiating a lower interest rate, not working with the current homeowner, doesn’t list the property so real estate agents know the home is available, not listed on the MLS, auctions off the home with the homeowner still living in the home that’s still wanting to negotiate with the bank to keep the home. Most of the public doesn’t know about auctions or how to get information about homes being auctioned. Most homebuyers wanting to purchase a home rely on websites such as www.Realtor.com and a real estate agent thinking all real estate agents have access to what is available to buy. Even going to a search engine such as Google inputting the actual address most times no information comes up on these homes and is a secret to even real estate agents that may even have a homebuyer that would consider buying that home at fair market value. The example home was auctioned off recently for $250,000. Is this right? We have wealthy investors buying up properties well below a fair market price, less than half of what the actual loan is, available to very few that have information on the property with just intentions of turning around listing with a real estate agent for what the area is currently selling for. The losers are families being kicked out of their home, ruined credit, many that can never recover and tax payers having to pay to help the bank bail outs and the banks keep asking for more and more bail out money.

 

Banks should be doing everything possible to work with the homeowner or as soon as the home is foreclosed and vacant list the property for sale with a real estate agent with a for sale sign on the property and on the MLS so everyone can see the home is available and for what price.  Laws need to be in place that banks need to have to list a property for at least 90 for sale with a real estate agent and listed on the MLS for the public to see at a fair market price before a home can be auctioned off. If the bank does not they should lose their license. Receiving bail out money and just dumping a property for any price is not the answer and will not help the economy or country.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are bail outs to the banks really the answer? Is there a secret real estate market with only information available to a few?</p>
<p>Is bail out relief in the billions to banks and the mortgage industry really the answer? Will it really help the economy or hurt the economy and country even more? We have many families losing jobs and the highest unemployment in 15 years hitting 9.3% in Los Angeles. California being more and more less desirable for businesses to remain in California or be able to do their business here. </p>
<p>Is it just another way for the rich to get richer and the poor get poorer? Just another way for wealthy investors to flip homes? Isn’t many of the reasons why we are really in this mortgage mess is investors flipping properties, some realtors not listing homes on the MLS so they can double end a property instead of split a commission, only present an offer to a homeowner if that listing real estate agent represents the homebuyer too and even holding open houses and telling a homebuyer if they really want this home they can’t use their real estate agent and would have to go through the listing agent to get the home, telling a homebuyer to get that home the homebuyer would have to pay such and such price and at times $100,000 or even more over the last recent sale in the same year. Even real estate agents were told that there is so many relocating to Southern California that from this point on there will not be enough housing to those moving to Southern California and many homebuyers may never be able to afford to buy a home due to increasing prices so homebuyers will need to pay the growing inflated prices. Homebuyers getting an interest only loan just so they could get into a home thinking in a few years there would be so much equity in their home they can refinance getting a better loan or just buy another upgraded home.</p>
<p>I’ve personally lived in Canyon Lake for 3 years and some homes have been sitting vacant since before I’ve lived here and obviously no one has maintained the home including water and probably the POA dues weren’t paid by someone. Seeing the properties sit vacant for at least 3 years and not even having a for sale sign or on the MLS personally ticks me off. In the 1990’s banks would list their properties with real estate agents and put the homes on the MLS once vacant and available so the home still had a chance to sell for a fair price not hurting the property values drastically as home auctions. In today’s economy many families are willing to work with the banks, still many getting kicked out of their homes because the bank won’t work with them, the homes sit vacant long lengths at a time with no real estate sign and not even listed for sale, not on the MLS so real estate agents and the public see it available and have the opportunity to be sold at a fair price and even auction off the home for an unreasonable way below even current market values. </p>
<p>Example a Canyon Lake home sold in August 2004 single family residence, 1500 sq. ft. waterfront with dock, 50 ft. wide lot, sale price $690,000 loan amount $565,000. The homeowner recently had financial problems and instead of the bank reappraising the home to today’s fair market value, negotiating a lower interest rate, not working with the current homeowner, doesn’t list the property so real estate agents know the home is available, not listed on the MLS, auctions off the home with the homeowner still living in the home that’s still wanting to negotiate with the bank to keep the home. Most of the public doesn’t know about auctions or how to get information about homes being auctioned. Most homebuyers wanting to purchase a home rely on websites such as <a href="http://www.Realtor.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.Realtor.com</a> and a real estate agent thinking all real estate agents have access to what is available to buy. Even going to a search engine such as Google inputting the actual address most times no information comes up on these homes and is a secret to even real estate agents that may even have a homebuyer that would consider buying that home at fair market value. The example home was auctioned off recently for $250,000. Is this right? We have wealthy investors buying up properties well below a fair market price, less than half of what the actual loan is, available to very few that have information on the property with just intentions of turning around listing with a real estate agent for what the area is currently selling for. The losers are families being kicked out of their home, ruined credit, many that can never recover and tax payers having to pay to help the bank bail outs and the banks keep asking for more and more bail out money.</p>
<p>Banks should be doing everything possible to work with the homeowner or as soon as the home is foreclosed and vacant list the property for sale with a real estate agent with a for sale sign on the property and on the MLS so everyone can see the home is available and for what price.  Laws need to be in place that banks need to have to list a property for at least 90 for sale with a real estate agent and listed on the MLS for the public to see at a fair market price before a home can be auctioned off. If the bank does not they should lose their license. Receiving bail out money and just dumping a property for any price is not the answer and will not help the economy or country.</p>
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		<title>By: David Dzidzikashvili</title>
		<link>http://blogmaverick.com/2008/12/23/what-about-the-bank-bailout-money/#comment-56859</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Dzidzikashvili]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It’s a quite difficult decision for any politician choosing between more bailout packages or letting the free market economic principles take care of the failed businesses, whether it is the financial institutions or automakers. The main focus should be defending the interests of middle-class Americans and creating a stable economic system that will guarantee long-term stability and sustainability. But here we also can face more challenges, since right now the Washington politicians are talking about the second large bailout package. If we bailout financial institutions and other industries again, when are they going to ask for the third bailout package? Or fourth? Maybe this is a time to let free market economy work rather than keep bailing out large, failed corporations? After all, it is the small and medium size businesses that create vast majority of middle-class jobs in America, not the large corporations. Maybe the government is better off to replace banks in lending practices and directly give loan packages with low interest rates to small and medium size businesses? That might work better and have a direct, immediate impact on economy and the middle-class America…]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s a quite difficult decision for any politician choosing between more bailout packages or letting the free market economic principles take care of the failed businesses, whether it is the financial institutions or automakers. The main focus should be defending the interests of middle-class Americans and creating a stable economic system that will guarantee long-term stability and sustainability. But here we also can face more challenges, since right now the Washington politicians are talking about the second large bailout package. If we bailout financial institutions and other industries again, when are they going to ask for the third bailout package? Or fourth? Maybe this is a time to let free market economy work rather than keep bailing out large, failed corporations? After all, it is the small and medium size businesses that create vast majority of middle-class jobs in America, not the large corporations. Maybe the government is better off to replace banks in lending practices and directly give loan packages with low interest rates to small and medium size businesses? That might work better and have a direct, immediate impact on economy and the middle-class America…</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://blogmaverick.com/2008/12/23/what-about-the-bank-bailout-money/#comment-56687</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark,

You bring up a very good point with bringing to light the issue on what will happen when the treasury happens to sell their shares.  Yea all is find and dandy that they have these shares now, but the point of this program is to make money for the treasury.  Therefore when reasonable they will have the ability to unload millions of shares on the market.  Will there be buyers?  Could this wave of selling bring down the banks even more?  Granted this is all hoping that these companies are still around….]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>You bring up a very good point with bringing to light the issue on what will happen when the treasury happens to sell their shares.  Yea all is find and dandy that they have these shares now, but the point of this program is to make money for the treasury.  Therefore when reasonable they will have the ability to unload millions of shares on the market.  Will there be buyers?  Could this wave of selling bring down the banks even more?  Granted this is all hoping that these companies are still around….</p>
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		<title>By: Mortgage Loan Blog &#187; Blog Archiv &#187; More unthought details about the Bailout funds.</title>
		<link>http://blogmaverick.com/2008/12/23/what-about-the-bank-bailout-money/#comment-56610</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mortgage Loan Blog &#187; Blog Archiv &#187; More unthought details about the Bailout funds.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 06:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] For all the criticism he gets, Mark is a very smart guy. He is very forward thinking, and discusses the potential impact, as well as the lack of procedure that is occurring right now. This article is a good read and can be found here. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For all the criticism he gets, Mark is a very smart guy. He is very forward thinking, and discusses the potential impact, as well as the lack of procedure that is occurring right now. This article is a good read and can be found here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Wevodau</title>
		<link>http://blogmaverick.com/2008/12/23/what-about-the-bank-bailout-money/#comment-56559</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Wevodau]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark,
You are spot on with your assessments. This is why you have made it and while others may be hyper-critical. Very good perspective on the federal government and my readership also appreciates your strong stand on the SEC. Rather than chasing innocent people like you, the SEC really should have been focusing their efforts on Madoff, who is a king-pin scum-bag. 

Keep the faith!
Steve
http://www.stevenwevodau.biz]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,<br />
You are spot on with your assessments. This is why you have made it and while others may be hyper-critical. Very good perspective on the federal government and my readership also appreciates your strong stand on the SEC. Rather than chasing innocent people like you, the SEC really should have been focusing their efforts on Madoff, who is a king-pin scum-bag. </p>
<p>Keep the faith!<br />
Steve<br />
<a href="http://www.stevenwevodau.biz" rel="nofollow">http://www.stevenwevodau.biz</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steven Wevodau</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Wevodau]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark,
You are spot on with your assessments.  This is why you have made it and while others may be hyper-critical.  Very good perspective on the federal government and my readership also appreciates your strong stand on the SEC. Rather than chasing innocent people like you, the SEC really should have been focusing their efforts on Madoff, who is a king-pin scum-bag.  

Keep the faith!
Steve
http://www.stevenwevodau.biz]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,<br />
You are spot on with your assessments.  This is why you have made it and while others may be hyper-critical.  Very good perspective on the federal government and my readership also appreciates your strong stand on the SEC. Rather than chasing innocent people like you, the SEC really should have been focusing their efforts on Madoff, who is a king-pin scum-bag.  </p>
<p>Keep the faith!<br />
Steve<br />
<a href="http://www.stevenwevodau.biz" rel="nofollow">http://www.stevenwevodau.biz</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark Farwell</title>
		<link>http://blogmaverick.com/2008/12/23/what-about-the-bank-bailout-money/#comment-56523</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Farwell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 02:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your making me hate these bailouts.
The bank managers and the like are in total control. No wonder the 
government is bailing them out.THE BANKS own The government.
So the government will always fix the banks screw ups. They do not want the American public
to lose american confidence in the banking system.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your making me hate these bailouts.<br />
The bank managers and the like are in total control. No wonder the<br />
government is bailing them out.THE BANKS own The government.<br />
So the government will always fix the banks screw ups. They do not want the American public<br />
to lose american confidence in the banking system.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Bourton</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Bourton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Personally I don&#039;t think they should be bailing out anyone.
Let the Free Market decide their fate, 
if they made the huge mistakes enough to make it the downturn of 
their company, then let it fall because of that.
 
Another company will fill it&#039;s space, why should taxpayers be used 
on the scale of Millions, or even Billions for a blunder they made?

They was taking the risk, this could of fallen on them even without
the ecomonmic situation going bad. 
Some will argue what about all the lost jobs; they won&#039;t be lost for long,
Other companies will fill their space, and new, and better management,
will be there instead of keeping in ones who made the risky and bad mistakes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I don&#8217;t think they should be bailing out anyone.<br />
Let the Free Market decide their fate,<br />
if they made the huge mistakes enough to make it the downturn of<br />
their company, then let it fall because of that.</p>
<p>Another company will fill it&#8217;s space, why should taxpayers be used<br />
on the scale of Millions, or even Billions for a blunder they made?</p>
<p>They was taking the risk, this could of fallen on them even without<br />
the ecomonmic situation going bad.<br />
Some will argue what about all the lost jobs; they won&#8217;t be lost for long,<br />
Other companies will fill their space, and new, and better management,<br />
will be there instead of keeping in ones who made the risky and bad mistakes.</p>
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		<title>By: Alemextra</title>
		<link>http://blogmaverick.com/2008/12/23/what-about-the-bank-bailout-money/#comment-56462</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alemextra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 18:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Below from Rupert Murdoch and the Lord William Rees-Mogg’s Times of London provides more proof(to me)that Steve Forbes has known about his colleague James Dale Davidson’s phoney naked short sale claim fraud and his running penny stock frauds from their NTU office near the SEC office for years.
Remember last year Rupert’s Times was the first to make the naked shorting assertion for Northern Rock.It appears to me that there is a ‘conspiracy’ indeed among the very wealthy involved in ’securities’ to use Davidson’s,Grant Atkins,Brent Pierce’s,Dave Patch’s and of course now Patrick Byrne’s NCANS because he plagiarized it from Davidson’s NAANSS,naked shorting to divert attention from what really happened to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, et.al..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Below from Rupert Murdoch and the Lord William Rees-Mogg’s Times of London provides more proof(to me)that Steve Forbes has known about his colleague James Dale Davidson’s phoney naked short sale claim fraud and his running penny stock frauds from their NTU office near the SEC office for years.<br />
Remember last year Rupert’s Times was the first to make the naked shorting assertion for Northern Rock.It appears to me that there is a ‘conspiracy’ indeed among the very wealthy involved in ’securities’ to use Davidson’s,Grant Atkins,Brent Pierce’s,Dave Patch’s and of course now Patrick Byrne’s NCANS because he plagiarized it from Davidson’s NAANSS,naked shorting to divert attention from what really happened to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, et.al..</p>
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