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		<title>By: Beiron</title>
		<link>http://blogmaverick.com/2009/01/27/the-great-internet-video-lie/#comment-64545</link>
		<dc:creator>Beiron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 22:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In his own words:
http://www.videomaker.com/article/7386/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In his own words:<br />
<a href="http://www.videomaker.com/article/7386/" rel="nofollow">http://www.videomaker.com/article/7386/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Contentinople - R. Scott Raynovich - The YouTube Model Is Dead</title>
		<link>http://blogmaverick.com/2009/01/27/the-great-internet-video-lie/#comment-63437</link>
		<dc:creator>Contentinople - R. Scott Raynovich - The YouTube Model Is Dead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] massive amounts of bandwidth that will be consumed is tremendous. This is one of the problems that Mark Cuban has been riffing on -- with the economies of the Internet, it&#039;s very hard to pay for this explosion of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] massive amounts of bandwidth that will be consumed is tremendous. This is one of the problems that Mark Cuban has been riffing on &#8212; with the economies of the Internet, it&#8217;s very hard to pay for this explosion of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: .TV - Major League Baseball Gets It &#171; Be Innovation</title>
		<link>http://blogmaverick.com/2009/01/27/the-great-internet-video-lie/#comment-63392</link>
		<dc:creator>.TV - Major League Baseball Gets It &#171; Be Innovation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mark Cuban over at his blog, BlogMaverick.com, you&#8217;ve no doubt heard him discuss the many limits of online television.  And it may be true that web based programming will never fully replace cable.  But there are [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mark Cuban over at his blog, BlogMaverick.com, you&#8217;ve no doubt heard him discuss the many limits of online television.  And it may be true that web based programming will never fully replace cable.  But there are [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Ryder</title>
		<link>http://blogmaverick.com/2009/01/27/the-great-internet-video-lie/#comment-62357</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Ryder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Great Internet Video Truth: This years March Madness

http://mmod.ncaa.com/video/hq?ts=1237749081&amp;t=92c95f599efb1e2df9d6668c9b89883b&amp;w=90

I have a choice of four livestream games, right now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Great Internet Video Truth: This years March Madness</p>
<p><a href="http://mmod.ncaa.com/video/hq?ts=1237749081&amp;t=92c95f599efb1e2df9d6668c9b89883b&amp;w=90" rel="nofollow">http://mmod.ncaa.com/video/hq?ts=1237749081&amp;t=92c95f599efb1e2df9d6668c9b89883b&amp;w=90</a></p>
<p>I have a choice of four livestream games, right now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://blogmaverick.com/2009/01/27/the-great-internet-video-lie/#comment-61566</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 04:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark - I&#039;m curious, you stated:

&quot;...we started streaming audio in 1994, video in 1997. 10 years ago we were doing gigabits of audio, with hundreds of thousands of simul users, 400k video...&quot;

If you were streaming video at 400 kbps in 1997, was anyone able to actually watch it considering there was very little broadband access for individuals?

I found this an interesting discussion topic.  To me, it is all about using the right technology platform for the right environment.  If you are broadcasting content that will be large scale, streaming is NOT the right technology vehicle for large scale productions.  However, if you want to broadcast a &quot;micro event&quot; that has a strong loyal following but lacks broad appeal, then internet streaming is the way to go...you have lower technology costs vs. TV and can deliver very nice content quality with the right combination of new technologies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark &#8211; I&#8217;m curious, you stated:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;we started streaming audio in 1994, video in 1997. 10 years ago we were doing gigabits of audio, with hundreds of thousands of simul users, 400k video&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>If you were streaming video at 400 kbps in 1997, was anyone able to actually watch it considering there was very little broadband access for individuals?</p>
<p>I found this an interesting discussion topic.  To me, it is all about using the right technology platform for the right environment.  If you are broadcasting content that will be large scale, streaming is NOT the right technology vehicle for large scale productions.  However, if you want to broadcast a &#8220;micro event&#8221; that has a strong loyal following but lacks broad appeal, then internet streaming is the way to go&#8230;you have lower technology costs vs. TV and can deliver very nice content quality with the right combination of new technologies.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Allain</title>
		<link>http://blogmaverick.com/2009/01/27/the-great-internet-video-lie/#comment-61276</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Allain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I might be thinking backwards here, but don&#039;t we need the content that demands 10m simultaneous downloads before someone drops the technology to make it happen?

I think grand point of the &quot;internet video revolution&quot; is that anyone can put something up and distribute it. If you think of the internet as a indie distribution system and not as the same class of communication as television or even radio then it fits right in. I&#039;m not 100% sure that the future of online broadcasting even as reliant on CDNs as you think. I recently heard a figure that every episode of Heroes is downloaded frlom bittorrent 5 million times. For all those that poo-poo bittorrent, that&#039;s a huge number. It&#039;s possible that bittorrent could distribute as much content as some CDNs.

I think looking at CDNs and CDNs only is short sighted. There&#039;s bound to be a large assortment of ways to get files for years to come.

- Nick Allain</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I might be thinking backwards here, but don&#8217;t we need the content that demands 10m simultaneous downloads before someone drops the technology to make it happen?</p>
<p>I think grand point of the &#8220;internet video revolution&#8221; is that anyone can put something up and distribute it. If you think of the internet as a indie distribution system and not as the same class of communication as television or even radio then it fits right in. I&#8217;m not 100% sure that the future of online broadcasting even as reliant on CDNs as you think. I recently heard a figure that every episode of Heroes is downloaded frlom bittorrent 5 million times. For all those that poo-poo bittorrent, that&#8217;s a huge number. It&#8217;s possible that bittorrent could distribute as much content as some CDNs.</p>
<p>I think looking at CDNs and CDNs only is short sighted. There&#8217;s bound to be a large assortment of ways to get files for years to come.</p>
<p>- Nick Allain</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Dube</title>
		<link>http://blogmaverick.com/2009/01/27/the-great-internet-video-lie/#comment-61014</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Dube</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me, the answer seems simple.  

Someone needs to start hammering ISPs to configure multicast from the CDNs.  Sure, the ISPs will leverage their position to get some money, but really, you are saving them money in the end which of course can be leveraged against them.

And for a reservation fee (which isn&#039;t necessarily cheap), I can reserve almost as many streams as I want for a live event.  Configure your player to do a fail over to the next CDN and your list of URLs start with the cheapest CDN.

Or, the Move player supports live streaming, which heads out to the end user as a progressively downloaded Flash hash.  To me, live events should be handled in a way that if I arrive 10 minutes late, I can start from the beginning, scroll through up to live.  This way anyone who arrives late is watching the &quot;live&quot; stream as a progressive download but asking for packets that are behind which .  CDN costs are much cheaper that way.  Content is cached at the edge and many of your users aren&#039;t trying to get the latest bits to view.

There are so many creative ways around the problem that I don&#039;t think it is much of a problem at all.  One thing is that true live streaming is only absolutely necessary for breaking news.  If I am going to pay to see a Beatles reunion show and I start watching it 5 or 20 minutes late, I want to see the whole thing.  I want to start from the beginning.  I want to be able to catch up, pause, ect.

Entertainment streaming just does not need to be true streaming anymore....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me, the answer seems simple.  </p>
<p>Someone needs to start hammering ISPs to configure multicast from the CDNs.  Sure, the ISPs will leverage their position to get some money, but really, you are saving them money in the end which of course can be leveraged against them.</p>
<p>And for a reservation fee (which isn&#8217;t necessarily cheap), I can reserve almost as many streams as I want for a live event.  Configure your player to do a fail over to the next CDN and your list of URLs start with the cheapest CDN.</p>
<p>Or, the Move player supports live streaming, which heads out to the end user as a progressively downloaded Flash hash.  To me, live events should be handled in a way that if I arrive 10 minutes late, I can start from the beginning, scroll through up to live.  This way anyone who arrives late is watching the &#8220;live&#8221; stream as a progressive download but asking for packets that are behind which .  CDN costs are much cheaper that way.  Content is cached at the edge and many of your users aren&#8217;t trying to get the latest bits to view.</p>
<p>There are so many creative ways around the problem that I don&#8217;t think it is much of a problem at all.  One thing is that true live streaming is only absolutely necessary for breaking news.  If I am going to pay to see a Beatles reunion show and I start watching it 5 or 20 minutes late, I want to see the whole thing.  I want to start from the beginning.  I want to be able to catch up, pause, ect.</p>
<p>Entertainment streaming just does not need to be true streaming anymore&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Home Projector</title>
		<link>http://blogmaverick.com/2009/01/27/the-great-internet-video-lie/#comment-60780</link>
		<dc:creator>Home Projector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 05:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow.
I had never really considered the serious numbers involved with streaming video.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow.<br />
I had never really considered the serious numbers involved with streaming video.</p>
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		<title>By: Running Naked: Mark Cuban Just &#8220;Pulled Down the Shorts&#8221; of CDNs Everywhere &#171; SiliconAngle</title>
		<link>http://blogmaverick.com/2009/01/27/the-great-internet-video-lie/#comment-60599</link>
		<dc:creator>Running Naked: Mark Cuban Just &#8220;Pulled Down the Shorts&#8221; of CDNs Everywhere &#171; SiliconAngle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 14:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mark Cuban just ran up behind the CDNs and pulled down their &#8217;shorts&#8217; exposing a BIG pro... Video on the internet is far from democratized it&#8217;s a dictatorship.   For once we are not talking about the cable companies or service providers (although they have issues). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mark Cuban just ran up behind the CDNs and pulled down their &#8217;shorts&#8217; exposing a BIG pro&#8230; Video on the internet is far from democratized it&#8217;s a dictatorship.   For once we are not talking about the cable companies or service providers (although they have issues). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dzoic ClipHouse Review</title>
		<link>http://blogmaverick.com/2009/01/27/the-great-internet-video-lie/#comment-60308</link>
		<dc:creator>Dzoic ClipHouse Review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 04:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Cuban has a great post called the Great Internet Video Lie on the viability of video content on the internt, whcih you may want to read prior to setting out [...]</description>
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