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		<title>By: Mike Libidinsky</title>
		<link>http://blogmaverick.com/2009/04/21/a-note-to-cable-companies-regarding-bandwidth-caps/#comment-64743</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Libidinsky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 16:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark, I think you are a little out of touch buddy.  Most people can&#039;t pay 1K a month for internet access.  Though the majority don&#039;t &quot;need&quot; a huge amount of speed and bandwidth, the fact is that the United States is behind the eightball (big suprise) on internet speed.  Other countries have multiple times the speed we get for less money.  Please explain how that is possible.  $50 a month is a lot of money for just access.  They are not providing content and are not providing ANYTHING when the consumer isn&#039;t using the internet.  You would think for that $50, we could get at least the speed someone in Singapore can get.  Again, like the car companies, this is another example of US companies being too big to care that they are not up to speed with foreign competitors.  If there wasn&#039;t a monopoly on phone and cable systems, and/or you could upload to satellite instead of just download, these companies would be put under by foreign companies with a quickness.  Just like Honda and Toyota make far superior cars than Ford or GM.  Its a freakin&#039; car!  They are on the street every day.  Take one apart and see how they did it better!  I&#039;m tired of the excuses put forth by large US companies.  Between corporate laziness, the governments idiotic constraints on research, and monopolies, the United States is going to become a producer of NOTHING!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, I think you are a little out of touch buddy.  Most people can&#8217;t pay 1K a month for internet access.  Though the majority don&#8217;t &#8220;need&#8221; a huge amount of speed and bandwidth, the fact is that the United States is behind the eightball (big suprise) on internet speed.  Other countries have multiple times the speed we get for less money.  Please explain how that is possible.  $50 a month is a lot of money for just access.  They are not providing content and are not providing ANYTHING when the consumer isn&#8217;t using the internet.  You would think for that $50, we could get at least the speed someone in Singapore can get.  Again, like the car companies, this is another example of US companies being too big to care that they are not up to speed with foreign competitors.  If there wasn&#8217;t a monopoly on phone and cable systems, and/or you could upload to satellite instead of just download, these companies would be put under by foreign companies with a quickness.  Just like Honda and Toyota make far superior cars than Ford or GM.  Its a freakin&#8217; car!  They are on the street every day.  Take one apart and see how they did it better!  I&#8217;m tired of the excuses put forth by large US companies.  Between corporate laziness, the governments idiotic constraints on research, and monopolies, the United States is going to become a producer of NOTHING!</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Hicks</title>
		<link>http://blogmaverick.com/2009/04/21/a-note-to-cable-companies-regarding-bandwidth-caps/#comment-64739</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joel Hicks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 15:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark,

This post ignores the larger reasoning behind caps.  It&#039;s about greed, the caps and tiered offerings are NOT about quality, but control.

If Mark Downloader normally downloads things like movie streams from netflix, streams from youtube, broadcast.com and whatnot, he will go over an in theory cap of 10 GB a month @ $40 within less than a week and be charged a dollar for each GB thereafter.  Now, if Mark Downloader got the same content from his ISP&#039;s streaming video site (like say Time Warner, Comcast or whatnot) offers or will offer it, that content downloaded from the ISP&#039;s streaming video does NOT count against the cap because it&#039;s written in the subscriber agreement.

It&#039;s about money, always has been.  Want to know the funny thing?  1 GB of bandwidth costs on average 4 cents on the ISP side.

Mark Downloader can download 100 GB a month worth of torrents, downloads, streaming video, and it&#039;d only cost his ISP $4 against the $50 Mark Downloader pays the ISP.

Tiered pricing?  What a joke, you aren&#039;t going to get any better service than you do now if we revert to tiered pricing.  It&#039;s just another way for ISP&#039;s to make more money on the backs of those uneducated about the costs and understandings of how ISP&#039;s and networks function.

Do a little googling, look up how much better Japan&#039;s internet is than ours, in speeds and costs.  We need to model ourselves after that.  We&#039;re the world&#039;s supposedly best nation, we seem to be falling short more and more each and every passing day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>This post ignores the larger reasoning behind caps.  It&#8217;s about greed, the caps and tiered offerings are NOT about quality, but control.</p>
<p>If Mark Downloader normally downloads things like movie streams from netflix, streams from youtube, broadcast.com and whatnot, he will go over an in theory cap of 10 GB a month @ $40 within less than a week and be charged a dollar for each GB thereafter.  Now, if Mark Downloader got the same content from his ISP&#8217;s streaming video site (like say Time Warner, Comcast or whatnot) offers or will offer it, that content downloaded from the ISP&#8217;s streaming video does NOT count against the cap because it&#8217;s written in the subscriber agreement.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s about money, always has been.  Want to know the funny thing?  1 GB of bandwidth costs on average 4 cents on the ISP side.</p>
<p>Mark Downloader can download 100 GB a month worth of torrents, downloads, streaming video, and it&#8217;d only cost his ISP $4 against the $50 Mark Downloader pays the ISP.</p>
<p>Tiered pricing?  What a joke, you aren&#8217;t going to get any better service than you do now if we revert to tiered pricing.  It&#8217;s just another way for ISP&#8217;s to make more money on the backs of those uneducated about the costs and understandings of how ISP&#8217;s and networks function.</p>
<p>Do a little googling, look up how much better Japan&#8217;s internet is than ours, in speeds and costs.  We need to model ourselves after that.  We&#8217;re the world&#8217;s supposedly best nation, we seem to be falling short more and more each and every passing day.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Hansen</title>
		<link>http://blogmaverick.com/2009/04/21/a-note-to-cable-companies-regarding-bandwidth-caps/#comment-64647</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brandon Hansen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 03:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark,

One of the issues for me is that I am promised 20mb/s.  That is what my contract tells me that I am paying for.  So is my neighbor, and the neighbor on the other side.  So shouldn&#039;t we all be able to use all 20mb/s all the time?  You are telling me that it is actually OUR FAULT that we are using what we are paying for?

Now, I don&#039;t at all have a problem with limiting.  What I have a problem with is the companies blaming paying customers for problems in the network.  

You are a business man.  From a business sense does it make any sense to blame your customers for taking exactly what you promised them?  Sounds like a bad business plan to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>One of the issues for me is that I am promised 20mb/s.  That is what my contract tells me that I am paying for.  So is my neighbor, and the neighbor on the other side.  So shouldn&#8217;t we all be able to use all 20mb/s all the time?  You are telling me that it is actually OUR FAULT that we are using what we are paying for?</p>
<p>Now, I don&#8217;t at all have a problem with limiting.  What I have a problem with is the companies blaming paying customers for problems in the network.  </p>
<p>You are a business man.  From a business sense does it make any sense to blame your customers for taking exactly what you promised them?  Sounds like a bad business plan to me.</p>
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		<title>By: John Sullivan</title>
		<link>http://blogmaverick.com/2009/04/21/a-note-to-cable-companies-regarding-bandwidth-caps/#comment-64604</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Sullivan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 03:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have had Time Warner Roadrunner for MANY years my bill is way to HIGH and their customer service is now overseas.
 I can&#039;t wait till we don&#039;t pay a penny and it all comes from satellite 2-3 years from now Time Warner will be toast.
We will get all this media for free mark my words :) 
throw your cell phone in there also]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had Time Warner Roadrunner for MANY years my bill is way to HIGH and their customer service is now overseas.<br />
 I can&#8217;t wait till we don&#8217;t pay a penny and it all comes from satellite 2-3 years from now Time Warner will be toast.<br />
We will get all this media for free mark my words <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
throw your cell phone in there also</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff @ another71.com</title>
		<link>http://blogmaverick.com/2009/04/21/a-note-to-cable-companies-regarding-bandwidth-caps/#comment-64266</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff @ another71.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just like electric utilities - ISPs could implement rate ratchets.

You use more - you pay more - AND you pay a higher rate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just like electric utilities &#8211; ISPs could implement rate ratchets.</p>
<p>You use more &#8211; you pay more &#8211; AND you pay a higher rate.</p>
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		<title>By: The Avid Techist</title>
		<link>http://blogmaverick.com/2009/04/21/a-note-to-cable-companies-regarding-bandwidth-caps/#comment-64227</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Avid Techist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well Mark I disagree wholeheartedly on your argument that this is about &quot;quality bandwidth&quot;
Fiber does interfere with the load on the network.

I&#039;m a big fan of your outlook and perspective on not only technology but business as well. But this process of holding the thumb down on the consumer for rights to a &quot;fountain&quot; of bandwidth that services like fiber based technologies provide is wrong.

This blog entry contradicts your view of bandwidth and the american family from March 8th 2006. Yes we will consume, but the point of the provider is not quality of the bandwidth availability but the quantity. As you stated directly at the end, it will take around 100 mb/s which Europe has coming in the pipeline, why not us? Go ahead and charge per MB, watch the community switch providers to fiber based technology.

Bandwidth to the home, how much is enough
from Blog Maverick by Mark Cuban

Its the trillion dollar question.  Telcos and cable companies are retooling  and/or rebuilding their networks to squeeze as much bandwidth as possible out of their plants.  Satellite providers are looking at every alternative means of increasing banwidth to,  and adding a return path  from  the home.

None have a choice. There is no question that households will consume an ever increasing amount of bandwidth. The question is how much. What will peak simultaneous  bandwidth consumption to the home be in the next 5 and 10 years ?

Television, High Speed Data, Telephony, sharing home movies and pictures, remote backup and applications that havent been thought of will consume bandwidth. A lot of it. But lets break it down to get some minimum numbers. Because if a provider cant hit minimums, they will have problems.

First of all, lets start with Television since thats a battleground that all providers are fighting on.  The very near term future of television is high definition.  A high definition stream is going to require a minimum of 8mbs per second on average. Thats a minimum. Now some people are trying to say that they can do high definition in far less bandwidth, they cant. 

Even with the best compression, lower bit rates fail the smell test. More importantly, because its easy to see the difference in picture quality as bit rates are reduced, viewers will complain about reduced picture quality, and picture quality will become a competitive element. That competition will keep bitrates at 8mbs, if not higher for sports and movies. So lets work with 8mbs.

Today its difficult for people to imagine a High Def TV in every room, but within 10 years HDTVs will be ubiquitous. More importantly, over the next 5 years, the homes with a HDTV in every bedroom and the family room, with HD PVR with Terabyte drives centrally housed, or connected to each PVR will be the most important homes in the neighborhood.

Why  ? Because if the household can afford to be the first in the block to be an all HD household, they will be a household able to buy everything that the provider sells. They will also be the more technically sophisticated household, so they will be more likely to buy all the options for high speed data, in home wireless data and eventually media,  online backup of PCs to a central location and anything else the provider can think of.  These are the “whale” customers. The most profitable customers that always pay their bills and never churn off.

So lets look at our customer, The Whales, and their 3 kids and see what services they use.

First, each of the 3 kids has an LCD HDTV that operates both as a HDTV and a PC monitor.  THeir PC is of course connected to the net and is their stereo. It is not their TV PVR because of the hassles of cable card or lack of satellite PC connectivity for programming. Instead they have a provider installed  HD PVR that shares a multi terabyte drive with their PC.

The kids are collectors. They save every bit of music  and internet content that catches their fancy on their hard drives.  They used to use ITunes, but instead they use a freeware desktop that front ends Itunes and all the different broadband environments that have been created and presents it as a unified front. It of course strips out any and all commercials by identifying the tracking information that is part of the internet url or embedded in the content itself.

When it comes to TV content, they use the same front end to programatically control the provided PVR.  With the front end, they dont use season passes any more. They save networks.  Everything on MTV. It gets saved to the PVR. Everything from HDNet and HDNet Movies, CBS, NBC, HBO, Showtime, ABC, TNT, ESPNs, they all just automatically get saved. They understand the concept of mutliple terabytes and at 8mbs a stream, they know they can save content to their hearts content and if they need more storage, they can delete something or just add more terabytes. Its cheap. So their PVRs have basically become network spiders pulling in content 24x7x365.

Of course they cant watch it all, but so what.  When something they want to watch in realtime is on, like an NBA game, they watch it. If they arent at home, they use the front end to re route it to their personal IP address that they bought their name-url for.  At the mall during the game ? Just program the front end to send it to markcuban.pda.  Never miss a minute,  just watch it on my phone/PDA whatever at the mall. Of course, if all their buddies want to watch it, they  have added their personal urls to a buddy list and its multicast  to them all. Their own personal version of slingbox.

But wait, there is more.  Because they  have collected everything on disk, they can use the front end to progam their own TV networks and share it from their goowy.com pages.  A little MTV, a little ESPN, a little HDNet and boom, their own tV network. Of course, they can use redswoosh.net to insert contextual commercials and even make a little money from it if anybody watchs. For fun, they program in some home videos and pictures from the party they went to last week, set to music of course

None of this is far fetched. In fact, its likely. But back to the original question. What is the max amount of simultaneous  bandwidth  being consumed during a day ?

3 Tuners bringing in 3 networks in bedroom 1 , one being watched, two being saved. Thats 24 mbs. Same thing going on in bedrooms 2 and 3. Thats another 48mbs.  thats 72mbs per sec and thats just the kids rooms.

Of course mom is watching a day and date release on HDNet Movies in the living room while saving Desperate Housewives for the hubby to watch later. Thats another 16mbs. We are up to 88mbs and going strong !

Dad is working on the collage of movies and pictures that he wants to give to the grandparents as a gift. So he is uploading and downloading digital pics and HDV files to and from the family storage site on box.net . He hates that the kids use so much bandwidth, but thank goodness he is able to finally buy the 100mbs package.

When he is done with the collage, or at least after he makes some progress on it, he is going to plug in the portable hard drive he got from the satellite company to the USB 2.0 port on his 80” plasma. Ever since they bought Netflix, he has subscribed to their movie service. They send him a hard drive full of hundreds of movies that Netflix customizes to his tastes, he loves murder mysteries. He watches as many as he wants to/can and when he is done, he sends it back and gets another disk with the genre of his choice.  His only complaint is that they wont split genres on a disk, so he cant order half chick flicks for the wife, which of course creates problems from time to time.

But it works itself out. There is enough bandwidth, and enough TVs to go around and every Sunday they look forward to the family tradition of going to the movies together.

So there you have it. My over simplified vision of the bandwidth and technology consumption of a family of the future. Not necessarily your typical family, but one of the millions of upper income families that every provider will do whatever it takes to make happy. Which they just might….

If they offer more than 100mbs of bandwidth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Mark I disagree wholeheartedly on your argument that this is about &#8220;quality bandwidth&#8221;<br />
Fiber does interfere with the load on the network.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a big fan of your outlook and perspective on not only technology but business as well. But this process of holding the thumb down on the consumer for rights to a &#8220;fountain&#8221; of bandwidth that services like fiber based technologies provide is wrong.</p>
<p>This blog entry contradicts your view of bandwidth and the american family from March 8th 2006. Yes we will consume, but the point of the provider is not quality of the bandwidth availability but the quantity. As you stated directly at the end, it will take around 100 mb/s which Europe has coming in the pipeline, why not us? Go ahead and charge per MB, watch the community switch providers to fiber based technology.</p>
<p>Bandwidth to the home, how much is enough<br />
from Blog Maverick by Mark Cuban</p>
<p>Its the trillion dollar question.  Telcos and cable companies are retooling  and/or rebuilding their networks to squeeze as much bandwidth as possible out of their plants.  Satellite providers are looking at every alternative means of increasing banwidth to,  and adding a return path  from  the home.</p>
<p>None have a choice. There is no question that households will consume an ever increasing amount of bandwidth. The question is how much. What will peak simultaneous  bandwidth consumption to the home be in the next 5 and 10 years ?</p>
<p>Television, High Speed Data, Telephony, sharing home movies and pictures, remote backup and applications that havent been thought of will consume bandwidth. A lot of it. But lets break it down to get some minimum numbers. Because if a provider cant hit minimums, they will have problems.</p>
<p>First of all, lets start with Television since thats a battleground that all providers are fighting on.  The very near term future of television is high definition.  A high definition stream is going to require a minimum of 8mbs per second on average. Thats a minimum. Now some people are trying to say that they can do high definition in far less bandwidth, they cant. </p>
<p>Even with the best compression, lower bit rates fail the smell test. More importantly, because its easy to see the difference in picture quality as bit rates are reduced, viewers will complain about reduced picture quality, and picture quality will become a competitive element. That competition will keep bitrates at 8mbs, if not higher for sports and movies. So lets work with 8mbs.</p>
<p>Today its difficult for people to imagine a High Def TV in every room, but within 10 years HDTVs will be ubiquitous. More importantly, over the next 5 years, the homes with a HDTV in every bedroom and the family room, with HD PVR with Terabyte drives centrally housed, or connected to each PVR will be the most important homes in the neighborhood.</p>
<p>Why  ? Because if the household can afford to be the first in the block to be an all HD household, they will be a household able to buy everything that the provider sells. They will also be the more technically sophisticated household, so they will be more likely to buy all the options for high speed data, in home wireless data and eventually media,  online backup of PCs to a central location and anything else the provider can think of.  These are the “whale” customers. The most profitable customers that always pay their bills and never churn off.</p>
<p>So lets look at our customer, The Whales, and their 3 kids and see what services they use.</p>
<p>First, each of the 3 kids has an LCD HDTV that operates both as a HDTV and a PC monitor.  THeir PC is of course connected to the net and is their stereo. It is not their TV PVR because of the hassles of cable card or lack of satellite PC connectivity for programming. Instead they have a provider installed  HD PVR that shares a multi terabyte drive with their PC.</p>
<p>The kids are collectors. They save every bit of music  and internet content that catches their fancy on their hard drives.  They used to use ITunes, but instead they use a freeware desktop that front ends Itunes and all the different broadband environments that have been created and presents it as a unified front. It of course strips out any and all commercials by identifying the tracking information that is part of the internet url or embedded in the content itself.</p>
<p>When it comes to TV content, they use the same front end to programatically control the provided PVR.  With the front end, they dont use season passes any more. They save networks.  Everything on MTV. It gets saved to the PVR. Everything from HDNet and HDNet Movies, CBS, NBC, HBO, Showtime, ABC, TNT, ESPNs, they all just automatically get saved. They understand the concept of mutliple terabytes and at 8mbs a stream, they know they can save content to their hearts content and if they need more storage, they can delete something or just add more terabytes. Its cheap. So their PVRs have basically become network spiders pulling in content 24x7x365.</p>
<p>Of course they cant watch it all, but so what.  When something they want to watch in realtime is on, like an NBA game, they watch it. If they arent at home, they use the front end to re route it to their personal IP address that they bought their name-url for.  At the mall during the game ? Just program the front end to send it to markcuban.pda.  Never miss a minute,  just watch it on my phone/PDA whatever at the mall. Of course, if all their buddies want to watch it, they  have added their personal urls to a buddy list and its multicast  to them all. Their own personal version of slingbox.</p>
<p>But wait, there is more.  Because they  have collected everything on disk, they can use the front end to progam their own TV networks and share it from their goowy.com pages.  A little MTV, a little ESPN, a little HDNet and boom, their own tV network. Of course, they can use redswoosh.net to insert contextual commercials and even make a little money from it if anybody watchs. For fun, they program in some home videos and pictures from the party they went to last week, set to music of course</p>
<p>None of this is far fetched. In fact, its likely. But back to the original question. What is the max amount of simultaneous  bandwidth  being consumed during a day ?</p>
<p>3 Tuners bringing in 3 networks in bedroom 1 , one being watched, two being saved. Thats 24 mbs. Same thing going on in bedrooms 2 and 3. Thats another 48mbs.  thats 72mbs per sec and thats just the kids rooms.</p>
<p>Of course mom is watching a day and date release on HDNet Movies in the living room while saving Desperate Housewives for the hubby to watch later. Thats another 16mbs. We are up to 88mbs and going strong !</p>
<p>Dad is working on the collage of movies and pictures that he wants to give to the grandparents as a gift. So he is uploading and downloading digital pics and HDV files to and from the family storage site on box.net . He hates that the kids use so much bandwidth, but thank goodness he is able to finally buy the 100mbs package.</p>
<p>When he is done with the collage, or at least after he makes some progress on it, he is going to plug in the portable hard drive he got from the satellite company to the USB 2.0 port on his 80” plasma. Ever since they bought Netflix, he has subscribed to their movie service. They send him a hard drive full of hundreds of movies that Netflix customizes to his tastes, he loves murder mysteries. He watches as many as he wants to/can and when he is done, he sends it back and gets another disk with the genre of his choice.  His only complaint is that they wont split genres on a disk, so he cant order half chick flicks for the wife, which of course creates problems from time to time.</p>
<p>But it works itself out. There is enough bandwidth, and enough TVs to go around and every Sunday they look forward to the family tradition of going to the movies together.</p>
<p>So there you have it. My over simplified vision of the bandwidth and technology consumption of a family of the future. Not necessarily your typical family, but one of the millions of upper income families that every provider will do whatever it takes to make happy. Which they just might….</p>
<p>If they offer more than 100mbs of bandwidth.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From MC&gt; You miss one point. The content providers that you think will pay for access, are getting paid by the same ISPs for the content they provide on the TV side

No... the last time I checked Time Warner (or any other MSO) wasn&#039;t paying Apple, YouTube or Netflix for content.

CBB isn&#039;t about making networks faster. It&#039;s about changing the fundamental architecture of the Internet. And their sad story about how their bandwidth costs are too much is crap. Ars Technica reported as much after reviewing costs stated in the TWC 2008 annual reoprt. And the NYTimes had a similar article regarding Comcast&#039;s bandwidth expenses.

You need to be a leader on this Mark! I know you&#039;re chomping at the bit to pay ISPs big dollars so HDNet can stream content on the fast lane but some things are more important!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From MC&gt; You miss one point. The content providers that you think will pay for access, are getting paid by the same ISPs for the content they provide on the TV side</p>
<p>No&#8230; the last time I checked Time Warner (or any other MSO) wasn&#8217;t paying Apple, YouTube or Netflix for content.</p>
<p>CBB isn&#8217;t about making networks faster. It&#8217;s about changing the fundamental architecture of the Internet. And their sad story about how their bandwidth costs are too much is crap. Ars Technica reported as much after reviewing costs stated in the TWC 2008 annual reoprt. And the NYTimes had a similar article regarding Comcast&#8217;s bandwidth expenses.</p>
<p>You need to be a leader on this Mark! I know you&#8217;re chomping at the bit to pay ISPs big dollars so HDNet can stream content on the fast lane but some things are more important!</p>
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		<title>By: monster</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[monster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Chris K</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another interesting study:
http://techdirt.com/articles/20090421/1248354597.shtml
Of course, if there was actual competition instead of a sanctioned duopoly, we wouldn&#039;t be talking about any of this, would we?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another interesting study:<br />
<a href="http://techdirt.com/articles/20090421/1248354597.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://techdirt.com/articles/20090421/1248354597.shtml</a><br />
Of course, if there was actual competition instead of a sanctioned duopoly, we wouldn&#8217;t be talking about any of this, would we?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark,

My concern is that at least some of the motivation for these caps is an attempt to gain a competitive advantage for the cable companies own PPV services against the net based alternatives: Netflix, Hulu, Apple...

I&#039;d be willing to pay for tiered service with guaranteed performance -- but I don&#039;t want my cable provider to be able to provide PPV movies to me at a lower price than a web based service solely because they control my pipe and can arbitrarily price PPV one way and data another.  

To put it more plainly, if Time Warner wants to provide PPV they should be forced to provide it as a service that counts against any bandwidth cap they enforce.]]></description>
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<p>My concern is that at least some of the motivation for these caps is an attempt to gain a competitive advantage for the cable companies own PPV services against the net based alternatives: Netflix, Hulu, Apple&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be willing to pay for tiered service with guaranteed performance &#8212; but I don&#8217;t want my cable provider to be able to provide PPV movies to me at a lower price than a web based service solely because they control my pipe and can arbitrarily price PPV one way and data another.  </p>
<p>To put it more plainly, if Time Warner wants to provide PPV they should be forced to provide it as a service that counts against any bandwidth cap they enforce.</p>
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