Comments on: Am I a Homophobe ?

By: alexlogic

alexlogic — Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:40:05 +0000

I think you’re making a different argument now. In my car situation its how I reacted that mattered more.

In Mr. Cuban’s situation, it was more complicated because his comment was in a recorded, public situation and he was going for humor. Afterwards he was concerned that others might have taken his sense of humor poorly, thus this article.

Most of us get much more leeway in our daily interactions because they are generally not recorded (although that is changing to some degree as time goes on) and therefore we do have the power to control how we react to an event that is going to dissipate because there is no recorded moment of it for others to analyze.

By: Jason Vasquez

Jason Vasquez — Thu, 26 Apr 2012 14:39:02 +0000

Your point is wrong because one cannot dictate how others should feel or perceive.

By: alexlogic

alexlogic — Thu, 26 Apr 2012 04:38:30 +0000

I don’t want us two to hijack this thread, my point is one shouldn’t feel insulted by someone if one thinks their remark has no merit. In Mark’s case, Mark was trying to be funny and most likely missed the mark, (no pun intended).

By: Jason Vasquez

Jason Vasquez — Thu, 26 Apr 2012 02:53:32 +0000

The words this man said to you were meant to hurt. Whether it accomplished the task or not does not negate the words he said, and their intent. He insulted you, and you took no offense. What you’re telling me is that he did not insult you, and you did not take offense to his non-insult. Which does not make any sense. You’re still trying to argue with me that A is not A. You’re wrong.

Mark Cuban insulted another man publicly, and felt guilty about it. He didn’t almost, or sort-of insult the guy, he insulted him. Whether or not the guy took offense does not make the insult appropriate or non-derogatory. It is still offensive. And that’s my beef.

By: alexlogic

alexlogic — Thu, 26 Apr 2012 01:27:34 +0000

Ok, I should have written, attempted insult, but I knew by their facial expression they meant it as an insult, and not in a funny way. I found it comically stupid on their part because I calculated my 20 year old car was saving me around 5,000 dollars a year, enough money to run yellow pages ads in 6 different yellow page books every year.

In Mark’s case, even if he was right and the person he was talking to was gay, if that person was happy with the other person, then Mark’s comment would be meaningless.

By: Jason Vasquez

Jason Vasquez — Thu, 26 Apr 2012 00:14:19 +0000

I didn’t THINK you were being insulted, I KNEW you were being insulted because you said so, yourself: “I found their insult funny because…” So did the person insult you or not? And if he did not insult you, why did you then rationalize why you didn’t take offense to an insult?

By: alexlogic

alexlogic — Wed, 25 Apr 2012 22:46:09 +0000

Actually, you THINKING I was being insulted is more of an insult.

By: Jason Vasquez

Jason Vasquez — Wed, 25 Apr 2012 22:38:15 +0000

Let’s be clear: A is A. It is still an insult, but you did not let it bother you. But not everyone has to feel that way about being insulted.

By: alexlogic

alexlogic — Wed, 25 Apr 2012 22:08:30 +0000

About 15 years ago I had a driving confrontation with another driver. It’s been long enough I don’t remember what caused the confrontation, but the other driver tried to win the argument by insulting me for driving a 20 year old car.

I found their insult funny because I liked and respected my car far more than I ever would the driver of the other car, and thankfully, I never saw that person again.

Being funny usually involves hurling some type of “friendly” insult at a someone else, but the bigger reality is, it’s not really an insult if the person being spoken too doesn’t care what the “hurler” thinks.

More importantly, I still have that car.

By: Jason Vasquez

Jason Vasquez — Wed, 25 Apr 2012 19:27:26 +0000

alexlogic: In Mark’s case, it’s an insult because it was used derogatorily.